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Triple Se7en 12-24-2015 04:45 AM

There's a reason Powerbelty remains #1 after multiple decades. There's no need to say anything more, for if they didn't work, they wouldn't be #1 / #10, or probably still in business.

Last December I sold my last CVA sidelock to a pawn shop for $45. Bass Pro had a massive sale on this ML around 2003 for something like $39.95.

I got choked-up when handing over the ML to the Pawn Shop owner. For that cheapest out-of-of-pocket and cheapest quality ML was the most accurate ML I ever owned.

I began toying with Powerbelts last month..... got them for 90 cents a-piece. Using the bigger ones-only..... 405s and 348s. Put a fiber-wad behind them and 70-80gr of Blackhorn delivers superb accuracy. The soft pine tree imprints are no worse than with my SSTs, XTPs and Expander sabots. I plan on using 348 copper HPs and 405 lead HPs next hunting season.

We don't need el-primos to harvest deer.

Champlain Islander 12-24-2015 06:19 AM

I am fairly new to posting on this forum but have been a HNI fan for a while now. I just want to say this forum is really something special due to the diversity of posters and the level of knowledge. I thought before reading some of the posts on here that I had enough knowledge about MLing to be pretty good. I wasn't even close and probably never will be. A small amount of knowledge taught me that I still didn't know anything. Happy Holidays to all of you guys. :biggrin:

bronko22000 12-24-2015 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 4235371)
PA didn't even have a Flintlock season until 1974 or 75. But I can't remember the year when we didn't need to use round balls??

You're right Grouse. But I was shooting a .45 cal T/C Hawken flintlock long before that and even had a couple deer under my belt before they started a special season. Actually it started out as a percussion but I bought a breech plug tool and a flintlock breech and flintlock and changed it over. I wish I had that tool now. I'd love to swap out my .58 and change it to a flinter.
It was funny when I'd see other hunters. most would look at the flinter and then look at me like I had two heads. But some would be curious and start asking about it.
As for the bore butter getting hard in the cold - it didn't matter to me. I only used it after cleaning my ML. I would throw the tube in the bucket of hot water to soften it up while I swabbed the bore. For patches I used the prelubed Ox Yoke patches. .015" I believe.

Muley Hunter 12-24-2015 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 4235393)
Getting back on topic - as with Bronko

How did we go off topic? He mentioned using bore butter that he doesn't use now.

Underclocked 12-24-2015 06:45 AM

ah aint neva lernt edited by JW as he might be learning now! frum ne o u'enz. ;)

Muley Hunter 12-24-2015 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by bronko22000 (Post 4235447)
You're right Grouse. But I was shooting a .45 cal T/C Hawken flintlock long before that and even had a couple deer under my belt before they started a special season. Actually it started out as a percussion but I bought a breech plug tool and a flintlock breech and flintlock and changed it over. I wish I had that tool now. I'd love to swap out my .58 and change it to a flinter.
It was funny when I'd see other hunters. most would look at the flinter and then look at me like I had two heads. But some would be curious and start asking about it.
As for the bore butter getting hard in the cold - it didn't matter to me. I only used it after cleaning my ML. I would throw the tube in the bucket of hot water to soften it up while I swabbed the bore. For patches I used the prelubed Ox Yoke patches. .015" I believe.

Ox Yoke is bore butter. ;) Bore butter is the name TC gave it. Same stuff.

Muley Hunter 12-24-2015 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Underclocked (Post 4235460)
ah aint neva lernt edited by JW frum ne o u'enz. ;)

We're still teaching you how to spell. :p

bronko22000 12-24-2015 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4235461)
Ox Yoke is bore butter. ;) Bore butter is the name TC gave it. Same stuff.

Yeah - what did they call it? Natural Lube or something like that.
OH and another way I used it was melted with a bit of bees wax to lube my home cast maxi-balls.
I still have a tube of the pine scent (green tube) laying around.

Muley Hunter 12-24-2015 08:56 AM

I believe TC used to sell a bore butter lube made for conicals. Probably just had some beeswax added. I only saw it once in a gun shop.

chaded 12-25-2015 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Triple Se7en (Post 4235420)
There's a reason Powerbelty remains #1 after multiple decades. There's no need to say anything more, for if they didn't work, they wouldn't be #1 / #10, or probably still in business.

Last December I sold my last CVA sidelock to a pawn shop for $45. Bass Pro had a massive sale on this ML around 2003 for something like $39.95.

I got choked-up when handing over the ML to the Pawn Shop owner. For that cheapest out-of-of-pocket and cheapest quality ML was the most accurate ML I ever owned.

I began toying with Powerbelts last month..... got them for 90 cents a-piece. Using the bigger ones-only..... 405s and 348s. Put a fiber-wad behind them and 70-80gr of Blackhorn delivers superb accuracy. The soft pine tree imprints are no worse than with my SSTs, XTPs and Expander sabots. I plan on using 348 copper HPs and 405 lead HPs next hunting season.

We don't need el-primos to harvest deer.


Number 1 at what? Sales? I'm sure McDonald's is number one in hamburger sales but that doesn't mean anything in terms of quality. Lol


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