This Could Have Turned Out Bad
12-01-2015, 03:17 PM
#41
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Illinois
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I wonder if my deer at 223 and 234 with a triumph and shockwaves were unethical ❓, or my antelope at 307 with my knight and a lehigh ,❓ or my deer at 176 and 219 with open sights ❓ actually the most unethical in some peoples eyes would have to be the 515 yard shot , Yes 515 with a muzzleloader and it equaled dead deer .
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12-01-2015, 03:18 PM
#42
Banned
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 146
Dixie Gun
The logic escapes me OldBob. Do you really think a 20 gauge fowler would be a better choice (more lethal?) or a more acceptable choice (more ethical?) than something like a .50 or .54 iron sighted rifle? If shot placement is key, isn't the rifle more accurate than the smoothie, and don't the sights on a rifle make shot placement more sure than a fowler which has no rear sight?
Many years ago I experimented with roundballs out of cartridge shotguns. You could order simple molds from Dixie in 0.001" increments, to customize the fit. My groups out of both gauges, smoothbore, were 2-2.5". Cast out of wheelweights, the balls would penetrate about 4" lengthwise into dry oak. This may not sound like much, but I was never able to come up with any load for the .45 ACP that would penetrate a 2" rough cut oak board. So, yes, I was confident that my shotgun loads would work, given a 50 yard maximum shot. I never did shoot a deer or anything else with either one.
As to the rear sight, I'm not all that up on these modern inventions.
The 20 had no rear sight, but shot as well as the scoped 12. I think Mossberg's kids model 20 gauge pump could be very useful. OldBob
12-01-2015, 03:29 PM
#43
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 146
Not unethical
I wonder if my deer at 223 and 234 with a triumph and shockwaves were unethical ❓, or my antelope at 307 with my knight and a lehigh ,❓ or my deer at 176 and 219 with open sights ❓ actually the most unethical in some peoples eyes would have to be the 515 yard shot , Yes 515 with a muzzleloader and it equaled dead deer .
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I'd bet you practiced this before you shot at game. I wouldn't know how to sight for a 515 yard shot, myself, and even the sportiest loads out of a ML would have quite the downward arc at that range, and even a pointy bullet is not immune to wind drift. I'd probably pass on that with any gun, let alone a ML. The farthest I ever shot a deer was 350 yards, with a .375 H&H with a 270 gr Hornady. This was 35 years ago. Wish I hadn't let that rifle go.
OldBob
