Powder Charges & Round Balls
10-29-2015 | 10:54 AM
#76
Nontypical Buck
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I wouldn't be caught dead wearing that jacket, nor that pair of pants built to house a man twice your diameter.... no way Jose!
But that ML rifle, Possible Bag and your hat are pretty cool.
Did that neck-shot buck run further than the double lunger?..... betting it didn't. Betting it did a belly-flop, right then & there.
Thanks for sharing those photos.
But that ML rifle, Possible Bag and your hat are pretty cool.
Did that neck-shot buck run further than the double lunger?..... betting it didn't. Betting it did a belly-flop, right then & there.
Thanks for sharing those photos.
10-31-2015 | 06:15 PM
#78
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PT Gold
I've actually used the 240, 260, and 300 scorpions. When I was using them it was in Pa and the deer ,body wise, just aren't all that big for the most part in Pa. Didn't really feel I needed really big bullet weights and most all of my shots where I ML hunted were well within 75 yards so I didn't need heavy loads either. I used those 240's over 70 grains T7 loose out of that old hawken. Recoil was very moderate and that old hawken of mine hates heavy powder loads anyway. Never could find a bullet that was accurate out of her with anything over 80 grains. My TC PH on the other hand shoots shotgun groups with anything under 95 grains.
Ron also gave you a superior bullet choice in the Lehigh CF bullets. I've done some testing with those bullets and they are deadly accurate out of both mine as well. But they are a little salty in price. The .452 245 grain CF is being reported as an outstanding bullet for MLers. I'm letting my daughter use my hawken this year since I am out of action for this years hunting. She is very recoil sensitive so I settled on the 250 Bloodlines over 70 grains Swiss FFG which is about at her limit for recoil. The bloodlines are the predecessor to the CF's and everyone that I have heard of using them always give them the thumbs up. Bloodline also has 220 grain bullets that may be just the ticket. Not sure where your granddaughter will be hunting nor the average size of the whitetail around there. Here in IL we have Does that will rival Buck size in a lot of other states. We gots some big ole girlies around here
so I chose the 250's for the added "thump".
Ron also gave you a superior bullet choice in the Lehigh CF bullets. I've done some testing with those bullets and they are deadly accurate out of both mine as well. But they are a little salty in price. The .452 245 grain CF is being reported as an outstanding bullet for MLers. I'm letting my daughter use my hawken this year since I am out of action for this years hunting. She is very recoil sensitive so I settled on the 250 Bloodlines over 70 grains Swiss FFG which is about at her limit for recoil. The bloodlines are the predecessor to the CF's and everyone that I have heard of using them always give them the thumbs up. Bloodline also has 220 grain bullets that may be just the ticket. Not sure where your granddaughter will be hunting nor the average size of the whitetail around there. Here in IL we have Does that will rival Buck size in a lot of other states. We gots some big ole girlies around here
so I chose the 250's for the added "thump".If I were choosing a bullet today, I would probably go with the PT Golds, in whatever weight (240 or 260) that shot best out of the gun she was using. However, we are about a year from the Presidential election, and if Hillary gets in, lead bullets of any configuration might be history. I think she knows that outright arms prohibition would not fly, because it would require a legislative initiative. However, prohibiting lead bullets would be a regulatory change, bypassing Congress. This is not science, because if you study the effects of ingestion of any of the proposed bullet materials, all of them are bad, just in different ways. I think we could see some unfortunate changes in the not-too-distant future, though.
OldBob
10-31-2015 | 06:27 PM
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Fire control
NC,
Nice pictures, but let me correct a possible misconception. I'm most definitely not adverse to flintlocks. If my granddaughter does decide to hunt with a muzzleloader, I hope she chooses the flintlock. If you want to go traditional, why not the wheelock or the matchlock? This probably sounds like I am being facetious, but I am not. Those fire control mechanisms strike me as being difficult and tedious, and I cannot see me ever being interested in them, but there's nothing inherently wrong with using either one. The ethics of the hunt are based upon the accuracy of your platform, and the ballistic efficiency of the load that it launches, among other things. "Ease of Use" is, to me, an intangible that does not enter into the equation, unless it affects your ability to humanely harvest game. The flintlock is a well-proven platform.
OldBob
Nice pictures, but let me correct a possible misconception. I'm most definitely not adverse to flintlocks. If my granddaughter does decide to hunt with a muzzleloader, I hope she chooses the flintlock. If you want to go traditional, why not the wheelock or the matchlock? This probably sounds like I am being facetious, but I am not. Those fire control mechanisms strike me as being difficult and tedious, and I cannot see me ever being interested in them, but there's nothing inherently wrong with using either one. The ethics of the hunt are based upon the accuracy of your platform, and the ballistic efficiency of the load that it launches, among other things. "Ease of Use" is, to me, an intangible that does not enter into the equation, unless it affects your ability to humanely harvest game. The flintlock is a well-proven platform.
OldBob
10-31-2015 | 06:32 PM
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From: Boncarbo,Colorado
Sounds to me like you are a weekend warrior just looking to extend the season rather than enjoy the true meaning behind muzzle loading.
Lots of guys like you buy flinters of sidelocks and say, Mine wouldnt shoot for crud! Well, after reading some responses, My take it you just don't want to take the time to learn.
Lots of guys like you buy flinters of sidelocks and say, Mine wouldnt shoot for crud! Well, after reading some responses, My take it you just don't want to take the time to learn.