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Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 4222612)

I've actually had t7 clump up more than any other sub and I live in a fairly "dry" area. In all the years of bp shooting, ive shot only 2lbs of t7 due to the accuracy issues ive had with it. The t7 pellets were the worse of the bunch

Right and its your calling to prove how the worst guns , worst bullets and worst powder is the best . whatever .

preacherman, settle down and take your arguments somewhere else.

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Originally Posted by falcon (Post 4222570)

The APP corporate address is:

American Pioneer Powder, Inc.
20423 State Road 7 #F6-268, Boca Raton, Florida 33498
Toll Free 888.756.7693

The APP manufacturing facility is located at:

1475 Blair Road, Whitewater, Colorado 81527

Well according to Cortera that is the the transport facility and there is NO manufacturing facility named in the incorporated side of the business. That means they don't make the stuff they just market and sell it. Heres the full stats on American Pioneer Powder INC.

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AMERICAN PIONEER POWDER INC
1475 BLAIR RD
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Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 4222618)

preacherman, settle down and take your arguments somewhere else.

Take your phony biased reports over to your own site would be better

Keep it clean.

This is an all new powder for me that im just learning about. No opinions on it as of yet. If its not accurate, i don't mind saying so.

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Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 4222624)

Keep it clean.

This is an all new powder for me that im just learning about. No opinions on it as of yet. If its not accurate, i don't mind saying so.

Ok then i give you the benefit of the doubt and will wait and see what your testing finds out

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Originally Posted by falcon (Post 4222608)

Contrary to popular myth the APP powders do not "suck moisture". They simply clump. Shake the can and the clumps break up.

A gentleman on another site knows more about blackpowder and the substitutes than anyone else alive. He has extensively tested the APP powders. His tests show APP powders to be no more hygroscopic than blackpowder or the other BP substitutes.

If that is the case why does the company pack moisture wicking packets in the powder?

Because of past expeiances with APP powder I was or tried to be very careful keeping the container sealed tight - still got clumping as you can see even with the packets in place.

I do not ever remember any of my cans of GOEX having this problem or even having the moisture pack in them.

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Originally Posted by 1874sharpsshooter (Post 4222616)

It actually produces moisture when fired according to APP's own website And it is very hydroscopic . So first they suck moisture . Then they produce moisture. So regardless of the only living expert and his tests , my results have proven to me that its the worst powder produced , You can have it all . I will stick with blackhorn and 777

I would agree with that - in my testing it was apparent that it or something was creating moisture in the barrel.

Ive had pyrodex that had some small clumps before. Just shook the can and it was fixed.

Goex or real black powder in general beats the snot out of the subs period.
I've stored APP years ago in my powder horns with zero issues on clumping so its just one of those deals where if it happens, it happens.

Heck, I did a test years ago and found that on a cabelas hawken, when bringing the rifle in and out of hot/cold/cold/hot house, the sweat was actually seeping into the nipple threads and soaked the powder, causing it to "melt" and turn into a solid form. It still shot perfect some days later.

Follow this link to 12 pages of testing of the powder back in 2011 when I first tested it. If anybody might be interested. There are better powders out there.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...er-powder.html