44 Caliber 180 Grain XTP--80g BH
09-09-2015, 04:42 AM
#21
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,605
Considering i shoot the Barnes bullets at smokeless ML speeds, im well aware of what they may do. It requires far more velocity that what is being discussed in this topic. 80gr of BH209 wont even come close to ripping apart a 45cal or 44cal 225gr XPB. Velocity would be in the 1700fps range with 80gr of BH209 and a 225gr bullet.
This one (on the left) was shot at just over 2300fps in my ULA model 20 50cal. It retained 205gr in a similar torture test. The one on the right is a 275gr XPB shot at roughly 2200fps.
This one (on the left) was shot at just over 2300fps in my ULA model 20 50cal. It retained 205gr in a similar torture test. The one on the right is a 275gr XPB shot at roughly 2200fps.
Last edited by Gm54-120; 09-09-2015 at 05:29 AM.
09-10-2015, 01:33 AM
#22
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,425
Dang, I guess I'm a very unethical hunter fellows...
See, back in 1977 I bought a beautiful, custom made flintlock in .45 caliber from Bob Watts down in Atlanta...I used this caliber for deer until 1990, when I finished my .54 and then converted the .45 to a .40...
I killed a boxcar full of deer with that .45 and a 128gr roundball in front of 75grs FFF Goex...Never had a problem with deer, in fact the only reason I built a .54 was because of the bear population that has exploded in eastern North Carolina...
As most know a roundball won't give the penetration of a jacketed bullet and the ballistic coefficient is miserable...Yet somehow our ancestors managed to put game on the table for hundreds of years before elongated bullets came along....
So, what do I do??? Turn myself in to the Unethical Police???
See, back in 1977 I bought a beautiful, custom made flintlock in .45 caliber from Bob Watts down in Atlanta...I used this caliber for deer until 1990, when I finished my .54 and then converted the .45 to a .40...
I killed a boxcar full of deer with that .45 and a 128gr roundball in front of 75grs FFF Goex...Never had a problem with deer, in fact the only reason I built a .54 was because of the bear population that has exploded in eastern North Carolina...
As most know a roundball won't give the penetration of a jacketed bullet and the ballistic coefficient is miserable...Yet somehow our ancestors managed to put game on the table for hundreds of years before elongated bullets came along....
So, what do I do??? Turn myself in to the Unethical Police???
09-10-2015, 03:13 AM
#23
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Comance county, OK
Posts: 11,408
As most know a roundball won't give the penetration of a jacketed bullet and the ballistic coefficient is miserable...Yet somehow our ancestors managed to put game on the table for hundreds of years before elongated bullets came along....
Got back into round ball hunting in 2012. Since then i've killed a few deer and about 25 wild hogs using patched .50 and .54 round balls. In my limited experience patched round balls kill about as well as anything else when put in the right spot.
So, what do I do??? Turn myself in to the Unethical Police???
Don't even think about it!!! You will be tried by prosecutor Toby Bridges and banned from hunting for life.
http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/...ic.php?t=49411
09-10-2015, 11:51 AM
#24
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Saxonburg Pa
Posts: 3,925
Considering i shoot the Barnes bullets at smokeless ML speeds, im well aware of what they may do. It requires far more velocity that what is being discussed in this topic. 80gr of BH209 wont even come close to ripping apart a 45cal or 44cal 225gr XPB. Velocity would be in the 1700fps range with 80gr of BH209 and a 225gr bullet.
This one (on the left) was shot at just over 2300fps in my ULA model 20 50cal. It retained 205gr in a similar torture test. The one on the right is a 275gr XPB shot at roughly 2200fps.
This one (on the left) was shot at just over 2300fps in my ULA model 20 50cal. It retained 205gr in a similar torture test. The one on the right is a 275gr XPB shot at roughly 2200fps.
