Good shooting 1874. I want to get some of them 260 DC's to try out. Anyone know when the next sale on them will be?

Also want to get some 230 Bloodlines... (hint, hint... Grouse )

I'm honestly not sure I could get behind those penetrators, unless it was for big or dangerous game. Certainly not needed for whitetails. I guess time will tell how they fare in terminal performance.

I believe you Tom, but what is the purpose of the XP then? Is it just for dangerous game like a hard cast bullet?

Are we talking about grizzly, or Africa? Kind of light bullets for some dangerous game.

That is an early goal for this hunting season...

Already in the works

Mike.....Good! Shoot a big one.

I suppose I could try them this year too. They don't cost anymore than a Barnes. I already know they load good with the CR sabots.

You ask a good question Muley. I have shot so many animals with Barnes, Hornadys, PowerBelts, DeadCenters, Parkers, etc. But in my findings nothing even comes close on performance to a Bloodline bullet. I mean nothing. But some people don't like the controlled fragmenting bullet design.

So Lehigh Defense has created the XP design to replace mushrooming bullets and show the new design creates more shock and trauma on game. So for those that don't like controlled fracturing heres another option to take a look at.

We are also gonna work on a better controlled fracturing bullet like the bloodline. Probably with heavier petals like the 230grn that Knight has not yet ordered or wanted to sell. The 230grn Lehigh to me is the best bullet they ever made.

As far as the XP I shot one Deer with them with pretty good results. Gotta shoot a lot more game with them before I say how good or bad they are on game.

Muley,
I got this off the website.

The magic happens with the nose design where the radial flutes force the hydraulic energy inward and then as the energy is restricted, it accelerates outward creating high pressure spikes damaging surrounding tissue. Kind of similar to sticking your thumb over a garden hose. You can see the radial pressure spikes in the gel pictures. Each crack showing in the gel represents a permanent wound. The permanent wound cavity of the XP is from two to four times greater than what a flat or ball nose bullet generates and often larger than traditional expanding bullets. So what you get is exceptional penetration coupled with a larger permanent wound cavity. Look at the data chart, no other bullet gives you this wound volume.

Pete, that was one of the reasons that Lehigh Dave jumped into the project. It costs him less to build so he can sell them for a bit less.

I believe that the flutes have been redesigned to make them more efficient than they were in the past.

Actually the design of the bullet is old... it has been around a long time. It was called the Devil Bullet several years ago and it was very successful. Making it from brass versus copper just makes it that much stronger.

Tom.......I always like to think of the "what if". So, what if you bust through a shoulder first? Would the bullet still create that wound channel compared to an expanded bullet like a Barnes?

The way the bullet is designed that is exactly what it is intended for... It will pass through hide-bone without deforming UNTIL it contacts a liquid atmosphere - then the flutes will gather liquid and redirect it upward and out in a jet steam rupturing the surrounding organs. It continues to do this all the way across the chest cavity - then it will punch its way out the other side. Any bones that it contacts on it way will be damaged/broken or severely impacted.

No way does it have the force to do this - but the same principle applies.... I was in a machine shop the other day and they were cutting steel plates with water! Now I know this technology is old but I just have never seen it applied. The machine controlled by a computer was directing a jet stream of common water onto a steel plate cutting out patterns for a project. My point LIQUID is tougher than you think..

I'll shoot the few you sent me tomorrow, and see if my gun likes them.

Right now i'm going fishing. The trout are calling me.