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jchpd203 01-06-2015 10:38 AM

New Federal BOR Lok MZ Bullet performance
 
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Used the T/C Encore over the past weekend and took a buck using the new Federal muzzle loader bullets. I loaded the 270 gr. bullet over 100 gr. of BH209, and a CCI 209 shotgun primer. The bullet went in the shoulder, and I recovered it just under the skin on the opposite shoulder. Great expansion, tremendous damage inside. My only concern was no exit wound to leave a good blood trail had the deer not dropped withing 25 yards in an open field. Here are a couple of pics showing a fresh bullet, and the one I recovered. The expansion was perfect.

WV Hunter 01-06-2015 11:13 AM

Can't complain about performance like that! Hey it worked like a champ if you ask me...going through both shoulders and looking like that....Fed might have a winner on their hands. :D

I wouldn't for 1 second be concerned with the fact that it didn't exit on that shot.

Grouse45 01-06-2015 11:18 AM

I also would be concerned with it not exiting. But 100grns by volume is a pretty light load.

cayugad 01-06-2015 11:18 AM

Very nice expansion I agree. And I also understand your concerns about a pass through. That seems to be the one major "bad bullet" complaint of those that get talked about. Although if the deer made one or two large bounds and dropped.. I would not fault the bullet.

How is the accuracy of the bullet on the range?

Triple Se7en 01-06-2015 05:36 PM

WOWzer! Impressive indeed. Wish I could afford them.:sad0064:

bronko22000 01-06-2015 05:50 PM

Man those things look devastating. I bet you would get a pass through with a lot of tissue damage it you hit behind the shoulder. I would bet a hit in that area the deer would be DRT.

BuckDoeHunter 01-07-2015 03:39 AM

Congrats on the buck!

Nice looking bullet.

Just curious, how far out was the buck when shot?

Josmund 01-07-2015 04:04 AM

I don't know what more you could ask for? I think the pass through would have been accomplished with a little more power.

That deer was not going far.

jchpd203 01-07-2015 04:19 AM

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The range was about 60 yards give or take. As far as accuracy, the pic below is at 100 yards, 100gr. BH209, and CCI primer. It was the last 2 shots I took after sighting in with the Federal bullets. As far as I'm concerned, accuracy is awesome. I do have a Leupold Ultimate Slam scope on the Encore.

I am going to see if maybe 110gr of powder will be as accurate, and if so, that will be my load. The reason I am at 100 right now is that I got the bullets right before the season and did not have a lot of time to play with different loads. I was already using 100gr with the T/C Shockwave bullets and just started there, and it seemed accurate enough.

The bullets are on the expensive side, but with the accuracy and performance I am getting, it is worth it in my opinion. Also the sabot less design means it is useable in states like Colorado for Elk in ML season. I have the loose powder part down also, just need to go back to open sights and I will be ready.

lemoyne 01-07-2015 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 4179044)
Very nice expansion I agree. And I also understand your concerns about a pass through. That seems to be the one major "bad bullet" complaint of those that get talked about. Although if the deer made one or two large bounds and dropped.. I would not fault the bullet.

How is the accuracy of the bullet on the range?

I have noticed this complaint and the no expansion complaint over the years and have come to believe that the reason I never seem to have that problem has got to do with the fact that I like to shoot 120 grains or more and trade off any guns that won't handle it accurately. I often have used .54 caliber gun with a 35 inch barrel and a 130 grains of RS and it consistently has shot in one side and out the other.
Now if a 230 grain PRB will do it so should any elongated bullet that is pushed fast enough and does not over expand[ come apart ].
I also have an Endeavor encore that I use quite a bit just because I like it, with Lehigh 50/40 bullet and 140 grains of Blackhorn always gets complete penetration and usually drops the deer on the spot. When I was testing the 50/40 Lehigh I took a 9 point with a nice rack and a large body at a very long angle cutting a notch in the left ham going in and ended up puckering the skin out in the right front shoulder 24 inches from where it went in. At that time I was using 120 grains and decided to see how much powder it would take and keep an inch group to increase the penetration. I do not advise any one that does not have a high test barrel and a steel receiver to use this load. But I do not recover any bullets any more and mostly I do not need to track them much either. :lolabove:


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