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duckslayer82 12-24-2014 09:43 AM

sabot choice????
 
Was wondering what sabots you guys where using. I have been using the Harvester smooth black sabots when I'm shooting the Barnes expanders with great results, but I'm trying a new bullet and thought about trying a new sabot. Gonna give the Bloodline 250 gr a little range time and see what they will do with the Blackhorn 209. Wasn't sure how the factory ones where

sabotloader 12-24-2014 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by duckslayer82 (Post 4177262)
Was wondering what sabots you guys where using. I have been using the Harvester smooth black sabots when I'm shooting the Barnes expanders with great results, but I'm trying a new bullet and thought about trying a new sabot. Gonna give the Bloodline 250 gr a little range time and see what they will do with the Blackhorn 209. Wasn't sure how the factory ones where

The sabots that come with the Bloodline are HPH-24's and I believe the ones made for Knight are Orange in color.

This is a target shot with the 250 grain Bloodline and supplied sabot by a Knight tech back in Tennessee. They normally shoot very well.



I think you indicated that you are shooting a CVA, and if so it probably has a tight bore - you might need a HPH-3p-EZ load sabot or a Harvester 'Crush Rib'

duckslayer82 12-24-2014 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 4177265)
The sabots that come with the Bloodline are HPH-24's and I believe the ones made for Knight are Orange in color.

This is a target shot with the 250 grain Bloodline and supplied sabot by a Knight tech back in Tennessee. They normally shoot very well.



I think you indicated that you are shooting a CVA, and if so it probably has a tight bore - you might need a HPH-3p-EZ load sabot or a Harvester 'Crush Rib'

That's correct. I have a CVA optima v2.

sabotloader 12-24-2014 10:31 AM

duckslayer82

In one other post you said you have some HPH-24's - what bullet do you normally load in those sabots? and do they go down OK?

Also forgot to post - that is a 200 yard target shot with the Bloodline - wish I were that good but it was not me!

Triple Se7en 12-24-2014 11:20 AM

I hate the thought of going to a range and needing 10-12 shots to sight-in a different moderately expensive bullet/sabot combo.
In the case involving the Bloodline bullet, every trigger squeeze sees approx $1.85 ($1.65+20cents) heading down the range towards the target.

I'll bet it makes our loyal roundball shooters-here read this thread and chuckle a-bit. :)

duckslayer82 12-24-2014 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 4177274)
duckslayer82

In one other post you said you have some HPH-24's - what bullet do you normally load in those sabots? and do they go down OK?

Also forgot to post - that is a 200 yard target shot with the Bloodline - wish I were that good but it was not me!

I have tried them with the expanders. Was curious to what the outcome was. I had better results with the harvester. They where a little tight but did go down

duckslayer82 12-24-2014 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Triple Se7en (Post 4177277)
I hate the thought of going to a range and needing 10-12 shots to sight-in a different moderately expensive bullet/sabot combo.
In the case involving the Bloodline bullet, every trigger squeeze sees approx $1.85 ($1.65+20cents) heading down the range towards the target.

I'll bet it makes our loyal roundball shooters-here read this thread and chuckle a-bit. :)

Your correct. It does seem to be a waist to some. But I am fairly new to muzzleloading and I want to find the best load possible. Only way I know how is to try diff things. See what works and what don't. Also I kinda thought that was the purpose of having so many choices of bullets and sabots. If one worked perfect in every rifle we wld only need one bullet and sabot on the market

sabotloader 12-24-2014 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Triple Se7en (Post 4177277)
I hate the thought of going to a range and needing 10-12 shots to sight-in a different moderately expensive bullet/sabot combo.
In the case involving the Bloodline bullet, every trigger squeeze sees approx $1.85 ($1.65+20cents) heading down the range towards the target.

I'll bet it makes our loyal roundball shooters-here read this thread and chuckle a-bit. :)

I hear you... that is why sight in with a much less expensive bullet of the same weight and then verify with the real thing.

sabotloader 12-24-2014 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by duckslayer82 (Post 4177280)
I have tried them with the expanders. Was curious to what the outcome was. I had better results with the harvester. They where a little tight but did go down

Since I think you live and hunt in Georgia, the harvester may be the better sabot for you. Here in Idaho and in the cold weather that I hunt in the harvester polymer becomes very HARD and difficult to load. The MMP sabot uses a different polymer and it remains pliable in the rotten weather - it grabs the bore very well... but, in warmer weather the MMP above say 75* start becoming soft.

miketodd58 12-24-2014 06:46 PM

I have a optima as well.

I'm shooting PowerBelts out of it and getting outstanding accuracy.

I've had good luck with the MMP Orange sabots and 458 bullets. They are much cheaper in the long run but I don't shoot enough that it makes that much difference at the end of the year.

Another good sabot combination for me has been the black crush ribbed and .452 bullets. That was my goto load in my Knight and was the first combination I tried after experimenting with different loads.

To be honest with you the Optima seems to like everything I have tried so far. I prefer the powerbelts because of their easy loading characteristics. I'll probably stick with them.


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