good used muzzleloader?
#21
Typical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: southwestern va
Posts: 753
sorry didnt mean to mislead people....i dont shoot 150 grain loads usually, the sweetspot for my encore is 110 to 120. Back when i first got into inlines the maximum load was 100 grains, so the reason i wanted one that would take 150 is so id have the ability to experiment and find the right load for it.
#24
Fork Horn
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 153
I agree with just about everything posted.
A new Wolf at $170 is going to be hard to beat and a great muzzleloader.
If you really want a deal wait till Feb or March during the off season and you can find some used Wolfs for $70 to $100. Be sure to check the barrels for pitting as not all owners clean them properly. You might even hold out and find a used optima for $100
I've bought Knight All Americans and Wolverines for under $50 bucks. Paid as much as $75 for a couple just because why not? . They have been some sleepers in performance.
A new Wolf at $170 is going to be hard to beat and a great muzzleloader.
If you really want a deal wait till Feb or March during the off season and you can find some used Wolfs for $70 to $100. Be sure to check the barrels for pitting as not all owners clean them properly. You might even hold out and find a used optima for $100
I've bought Knight All Americans and Wolverines for under $50 bucks. Paid as much as $75 for a couple just because why not? . They have been some sleepers in performance.
#26
Typical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Pa.
Posts: 502
thanks everybody for the input. I actually stumbled into a deal on a remington genesis, trading a guy an unused encore shotgun barrel for it so its working out nice. I did a little research and they seemed to be fairly well reviewed, and it meets my criteria for 209 primer and will handle up to 150g loads.
#27
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Midwest
Posts: 1,079
If you are going to buy a used blackpowder gun, try to find one with a stainless barrel. They can rust too, but not as easily as blued steel. Mine Optima was probably never cleaned before I bought it and it cleaned up well. The only rust was on the firing pin spring and CVA sent me two of them for free. On off season Wally World sometimes sell the stainless Wolf for under $170. It is a great gun but I do love the Optima--seems to be the same thing but just a little bigger.
#28
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Midwest
Posts: 1,079
If you are going to buy a used blackpowder gun, try to find one with a stainless barrel. They can rust too, but not as easily as blued steel. Mine Optima was probably never cleaned before I bought it and it cleaned up well. The only rust was on the firing pin spring and CVA sent me two of them for free. On off season Wally World sometimes sell the stainless Wolf for under $170. It is a great gun but I do love the Optima--seems to be the same thing but just a little bigger.
#30
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,445
It has functioned as it should and I've never had any problems with it that were the gun's fault. I haven't heard of anyone else having issues with a Genesis.
I shoot 350 gr Hornady FPBs over 100 gr loose Pyrodex, and have shot a bunch of deer with it. None of them ever indicated they would have preferred being shot with a different gun.
Last edited by UncleNorby; 12-18-2014 at 04:55 AM.