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Old 02-22-2013 | 06:33 AM
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Sorry to hear your Issues rafsob, I also think they should have stopped the coating process and sold them without it and offered just a SS version. Stupid idea to begin with, if they'd just left a good MLer with a bad idea alone it would have been a great seller. Now I bet sales are way down and CVA is now getting a bad name after working so hard to get themselves back in the game.
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Old 02-22-2013 | 06:45 AM
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Hey BP glad to hear from you brother. I know what you mean. It just doesn't make any sense with this problem. I can't believe I am the only person having this problem!!! If I can't them to help on this, I will get the coating off and press on with a great shooting gun. They have a great product, but please get rid of the coating or get it done correctly.

What buggs the hell out of me is that if this would happen to anyone, it will invariably be me!!! Im the type of guy who gets in a long line at the bank and just before I get to the teller window, she puts up the "Out to lunch" sign!!! If I didn't have bad luck, I wouldn't have any.
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Old 02-22-2013 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rafsob
Hey BP glad to hear from you brother. I know what you mean. It just doesn't make any sense with this problem. I can't believe I am the only person having this problem!!! If I can't them to help on this, I will get the coating off and press on with a great shooting gun. They have a great product, but please get rid of the coating or get it done correctly.

What buggs the hell out of me is that if this would happen to anyone, it will invariably be me!!! Im the type of guy who gets in a long line at the bank and just before I get to the teller window, she puts up the "Out to lunch" sign!!! If I didn't have bad luck, I wouldn't have any.
Good to hear from you too rafsob
I thought a few others were having the same problem also, or did they get new MLers and the new ones they got didn't chip? If you can get the coating off without ruing the finish I'd go that route, I know it's not what you want but then you'd have a one of a kind.
Im with you on only having bad luck, I expect it and when it happens Im so used to it, it doesn't bother me anymore. I've been slacking off this winter doing my normal winter things and waiting for Spring, my excitement for the winter has been we finally got High Speed Internet out here in the coiuntry where I live. So I have that and bought a new computer to go along with it, I now see what I've been missing for the last 10+ years having "Dial Up"
Now if I can only find some powder, primers, and bullets I'll be a happy camper, Damn NYS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-22-2013 | 07:24 AM
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Hey BP, I was fortunate to have a good stock of reloading supplies on hand. Just did an inventory and I am looking good. As to NYS, I hear your pain. That governor of yours is a chip off the old block. It is all about politics for sure. I personally think he is a horses rear!!! but he has a very high approval rating, so !!!!!

Was headed to the range today, but weather turned to crap quick. I picked up a new hunting rifle, a Winchester Highwall 1885 in .45-70. It is in a sporter configuration. I love my ML and side locks, but I still love my 19th century firearms, original or repro! Will send a photo of it later.

I know what it was like and how shocked I was to go from dialup to modern high speed!!! Have fun my friend.
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Old 02-22-2013 | 07:35 AM
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Hope they work it out for you, that stinks. I have to agree...why coat a SS barrel?

Is that the ONLY way they offer the gun, with the coating?

I am very skeptical about this whole thing in the first place so take this with the proverbial 'grain of salt'.... The are many grades of stainless steel and the all qualify to be called 'stainless' and the ones that they use for 'ordinance' steel are just that 'ordinance', but depending on the ingrediants used in the stainless formula it can and does have a different outward appearance.

Could it be the steel they are using is or does not have the luster that we commonly associate with 'stainless' - so to cover this they coat it.

Also I want you notice I am not trying to refer to a lesser quality stainless. But everyone wants to reduce the cost of manufacturing to increase the bottom line. True 4140 is not cheap!
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Old 02-22-2013 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sabotloader
Could it be the steel they are using is or does not have the luster that we commonly associate with 'stainless' - so to cover this they coat it.
Hey SB, so you think It may not be in advantageous to me to keep the gun and have the coating removed? I know the barrel is SS, but not sure about the frame. The gun is much lighter then the Apex and the frame may be made of aluminum. If that is the case, I don't know how well it will keep under heavy hunting conditions.

Now I am feeling screwed!!!
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Old 02-22-2013 | 08:12 AM
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I would keep pushing on CVA for a REAL solution to your problem. They should be able to fix it, (either with a coating that won't come off, or by not coating it at all) or someone is telling the ML community a load of BS, imo. If they can't, I'd tell them you are frustrated but you'll put up with it if they refund you half and you keep the gun (assuming that makes you happy). Then you could blast it off, and worst case if that didn't look like you wanted, go get the whole gun dipped.

The ML community will probably never know the truth as to why they decided to put that stupid coating on to begin with. Whoever had that bright idea is probably hating life. Sabotloader might be right. What BP said is also true, the MR is a black eye on what has become a pretty good company in the eyes of most.

And rafsob, I hardly think you are the only one with that problem. Most folks that have ever posted about the MR seemed to have the same issue. Heck, you don't hardly see anyone post about it all....makes you wonder how many they sold. Not many I would guess.
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Old 02-22-2013 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rafsob
Hey SB, so you think It may not be in advantageous to me to keep the gun and have the coating removed? I know the barrel is SS, but not sure about the frame. The gun is much lighter then the Apex and the frame may be made of aluminum. If that is the case, I don't know how well it will keep under heavy hunting conditions.

Now I am feeling screwed!!!
No.. I do not trying to say that at all... If you like the gun; shoot!! If I liked the gun - it would be terribly hard to give it up.

I am just thinking, and I do not know for sure at all, but there must be a reason thay are adding the coating to the rifle. That is not a inexpensive operation... The other thing I would suggest... I think stainless is the preferred option for many people... CVA has to know this, I know that TC does, but the cost of stainless creates a problem when you are trying to offer a less expensive ML.

There is also another possibility that comes to mind... Since the recieiver is aluminum and the barrel is stainless are they just trying to match the aluminum color of the reciever to the stainless color on the barrel. In that case a coating would be the perfect answer cosmetic answer.

Whatever it is still the pits if the coating will not stay on.

The guys that apply Black Ice Coatings seem to have that problem whipped.

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Old 02-22-2013 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sabotloader
No.. I do not trying to say that at all... If you like the gun shoot If I liked the gun - it would be terribly hard to give it up.

I am just thinking, and I do not know for sure at all, but there must be a reason thay are adding the coating to the rifle. That is not a inexpensive operation... The other thing I would suggest... I think stainless is the preferred option for many people... CVA has to know this, I know that TC does, but the cost of stainless creates a problem when you are trying to offer a less expensive ML.

There is also another possibility that comes to mind... Since the recieiver is aluminum and the barrel is stainless are they just trying to match the aluminum color of the reciever to the stainless color on the barrel. In that case a coating would be the perfect answer cosmetic answer.

Whatever it is still the pits if the coating will not stay on.

The guys that apply Black Ice Coatings seem to have that problem whipped.
That was going to be my suggestion - see if they will refund you half and then have it black ice coated or something similar. It's probably a better coating overall and gets great reviews. And I don't think it's that expensive either.
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Old 02-22-2013 | 10:58 AM
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I could be wrong but I seriously doubt CVA is going to refund half his money so he can go somewhere else to get the thing coated, especially when they are coating the guns themselves. That would be admitting that their coating is junk and that they pretty much had to pay for a customer to get their gun coated elsewhere because they don't know how to do it. I doubt that happens, they would rather just not have you as a customer then do that.
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