Montana X-Treme Bore Conditioner Evaporates?
01-02-2013, 09:07 AM
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BP - it is not only the Glycol Ether but you may have also lost through evaoparation, some if not all ,of the Napthalene, Psuedocumene, and some of the NH4OH or ammonia. All are volatiles to a certain extent. According the the MSDS peroxides can form and when this happens product stability goes right out the window. Peroxides can degrade the action of what the product is intended to do.
I'd repalce the product and not buy in bulk.
Expecting 4 yrs of shelf life is a bit much in today's market. 16 to 18 months is the norm as I was employed in consumer products at one time and dealt with shelf life of the products I created.
JW
I'd repalce the product and not buy in bulk.
Expecting 4 yrs of shelf life is a bit much in today's market. 16 to 18 months is the norm as I was employed in consumer products at one time and dealt with shelf life of the products I created.
JW
01-02-2013, 09:22 AM
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So should I use the new (old) bottle that has the "Glycol Ether" evaporated out of it, will it still do what it's suppos-to? Since I bought them 4 years ago Im assuming that since I bought 3 bottles of the MX BC at the same time and that Im just now finsihing my second bottle of MX BC that the second bottle I've been using for the last year and a half or longer also has had most if not all of the glycol ether evaporated out of it?
I also looked at the ingredients of the MX Gun Oil, it also contains gylcol ether, yet the bottle of MX Gun Oil has not evaporated and is still as full as when I bought it. They were stored in the same zip-loc bag yet only the MX BC showed signs of evaporation.
And YES I have the older plastic bottles with the flip pour spout.
Am I going to have to order new bottles of both the MX BC and MX Gun oil or do you think the Gun Oil is still good since it did'nt show signs of evaporation,
Am I going to have to order new bottles of both the MX BC and MX Gun oil or do you think the Gun Oil is still good since it did'nt show signs of evaporation,
or should I just get some new MX BC, or should I be good to just use it up. But If I go the route with just using what I have I doubt that even by the end of Next Season that I'll have it all gone. This stuff last a long time.
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01-02-2013, 04:15 PM
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Thank's JW and Sabotloader for your comments.
Since JW says the shelf life on the MX BC is about 18 months it looks like I'll have to buy new MX BC each new season because there's no way I can use a whole bottle of that stuff in a years time, it just goes too far wich of course I like and dont mind.
And Sabotloader I bought in Bulk to save on shipping, I figured if I bought enough to last I'd save money on the long run. But now I'll just have to suck up the shipping on just 1 bottle of MX BC a year from now on because like you I guess I really dont need the MX Gun Oil as I too seldome use it.
Oh wait....you said the new packaging is in a Metal Bottle with a metal cap, does it evaporate in the newer metal bottle? if not I can at least buy 2 bottles of it and hope it last for mabey 3 seasons befor I need more. How much MX BC do you go through in a years time?
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Since JW says the shelf life on the MX BC is about 18 months it looks like I'll have to buy new MX BC each new season because there's no way I can use a whole bottle of that stuff in a years time, it just goes too far wich of course I like and dont mind.
And Sabotloader I bought in Bulk to save on shipping, I figured if I bought enough to last I'd save money on the long run. But now I'll just have to suck up the shipping on just 1 bottle of MX BC a year from now on because like you I guess I really dont need the MX Gun Oil as I too seldome use it.
Oh wait....you said the new packaging is in a Metal Bottle with a metal cap, does it evaporate in the newer metal bottle? if not I can at least buy 2 bottles of it and hope it last for mabey 3 seasons befor I need more. How much MX BC do you go through in a years time?
(BP)
01-02-2013, 04:36 PM
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Thank's JW and Sabotloader for your comments.
Since JW says the shelf life on the MX BC is about 18 months it looks like I'll have to buy new MX BC each new season because there's no way I can use a whole bottle of that stuff in a years time, it just goes too far wich of course I like and dont mind.
And Sabotloader I bought in Bulk to save on shipping, I figured if I bought enough to last I'd save money on the long run. But now I'll just have to suck up the shipping on just 1 bottle of MX BC a year from now on because like you I guess I really dont need the MX Gun Oil as I too seldome use it.
Oh wait....you said the new packaging is in a Metal Bottle with a metal cap, does it evaporate in the newer metal bottle? if not I can at least buy 2 bottles of it and hope it last for mabey 3 seasons befor I need more. How much MX BC do you go through in a years time?
(BP)
Since JW says the shelf life on the MX BC is about 18 months it looks like I'll have to buy new MX BC each new season because there's no way I can use a whole bottle of that stuff in a years time, it just goes too far wich of course I like and dont mind.
And Sabotloader I bought in Bulk to save on shipping, I figured if I bought enough to last I'd save money on the long run. But now I'll just have to suck up the shipping on just 1 bottle of MX BC a year from now on because like you I guess I really dont need the MX Gun Oil as I too seldome use it.
Oh wait....you said the new packaging is in a Metal Bottle with a metal cap, does it evaporate in the newer metal bottle? if not I can at least buy 2 bottles of it and hope it last for mabey 3 seasons befor I need more. How much MX BC do you go through in a years time?
(BP)
I am lucky if I can use a bottle in a year - a little bit of just goes for miles...
01-02-2013, 05:00 PM
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BP - the 18 month shelf life comment was directed at your package which was plastic. Since then MT brands went to a metal bottle. That changes everything for shelf life and will increase the shelf life to beyond 18 months. At least it shold!
When I tested shelf life on the products I always went beyond 24 months and yes out to 4 yrs. Why? I wanted to know where the products I supported broke down. Many issues on degradation can be solved using correct packaging.
Just to clear that up.
JW
When I tested shelf life on the products I always went beyond 24 months and yes out to 4 yrs. Why? I wanted to know where the products I supported broke down. Many issues on degradation can be solved using correct packaging.
Just to clear that up.
JW
Last edited by JW; 01-02-2013 at 05:06 PM.
