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Old 09-27-2012 | 05:26 AM
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In an Impact i would choose loose Triple7 out of your choices. It has the best performance, less smoke, less corrosive and easier to clean than Pyro. Its also cheaper than pellets (per shot) and easier to fine tune your load.
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Old 09-27-2012 | 05:40 AM
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In the Black Powder Reference Forum there is a large post of all the characteristics of the different powders available to shooters. What their good points are and even their bad points. All members were encourgaged to chip in and tell what they could with their experiences of powders. It might be worth reading for a person new to muzzleloading.

As for my personal experience with Pyrodex and Triple Seven Pellets, they were on sale one year and I purchased two boxes of each. The Pyrodex Pellets worked so well I purchased more of them. The Triple Seven pellets were a mass of hangfires, miss fires, flaming pellets, etc... I vowed never to (and have not) purchase them again. But this is one persons experience and you need to understand that. Others probably have excellent luck with Triple Seven. Maybe I hit a bad batch or a load that got damaged somehow.
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Old 09-27-2012 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Semisane
Your disclamer will not hold up Cayugad, given your history as a known trouble maker on this forum.

Seriously though, you have a valid point. Too often new guys are bombarded with slightly (and sometimes not so slightly) off topic recommendations based on our own preferences, rather than solid answers to their specific question. It would be far better to answer the question first, then add other things they may want to consider.
Well, when you ask someone who has tried all the powders, and leave out the one they think is the best offered right now. They're going to recommend it.

Forums are all about giving your opinion based on what you've experienced, or at least has been proven to work well. That's what I did.

All the powder work. Pyrodex is very corrosive. Even more so that real black powder. T7 gave me horrible crud rings.

I feel BH is the best powder if your gun has reliable ignition with it. Many have tested it, and it always came out the most consistent powder. Something is wrong if you don't get the same results.

Carlos is getting 1" groups at 300yds. Show me another sub doing that?

There's good reason for that. BH is much closer to a smokeless powder than any other sub. BH doesn't work in traditional guns, because it's a modern powder made for modern inlines. Powders that work in traditional guns can't compete.
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Old 09-27-2012 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
I feel BH is the best powder if your gun has reliable ignition with it. Many have tested it, and it always came out the most consistent powder. Something is wrong if you don't get the same results.


I get just as consistent results with 777, Goex and pyrodex as I do BH. Am I doing something wrong? Because I've shot jugs upon jugs of BH without any issues whatsoever. Just because something works for you, doesn't mean it works for everyone.

Case in point, I’ve never had a gun rust w/BH ever. But a huntin’ buddy of mine had his rust after leaving it dirty.

Originally Posted by Muley Hunter

There's good reason for that. BH is much closer to a smokeless powder than any other sub. BH doesn't work in traditional guns, because it's a modern powder made for modern inlines. Powders that work in traditional guns can't compete.


Many “modern inlines” have issues shooting it. And even the ones that don’t, you have to use a specific primer. That’s called a finicky powder.

I agree with Semi, I wish more people would answer the question people pose instead of trying to sound like commercials.
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Old 09-27-2012 | 07:09 AM
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The problem I see with immediately giving an opinion on something that is not even mentioned is the fact of you don't know how informed the original poster already is. How do we know that he doesn't already know about BH209 and just simply has chosen not to use it? I know it is annoying for me when I have done all my research and have narrowed it down to something, then turn to the forums for advice only to have people telling me to use something else. I want to use what I asked about! I agree with what has said previously about answering the original posters question first and then maybe finding out what they think about something you would reccomed. BH209 has its advantages but it is not a must for muzzleloading. The powders and pellets listed in the original post will do just fine.
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Old 09-27-2012 | 07:43 AM
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Chad...Then again. He might not know about BH 209. Now he has options. He got plenty of info on the powders he asked for. I shot T7 and Pyro for years. It works, but i think BH is a better hunting powder. If for no other reason that it doesn't absorb moisture, and if you don't find it more accurate than the other powders. It will be just as accurate. As for being corrosive? I need to see an official test to believe it. Not saying it doesn't, but I need to see it. For me...I get no corrosion.



TNH..The guns that don't have a problem shooting BH. Don't have to use a special primer. My Omega that has a great BP for BH would shoot any primer except the ML primers. The CVA will do the same wit a BH BP.

It's only the guns that don't have great BP's that need the hot primers. Like a CVA with the stock BP.
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Old 09-27-2012 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
Chad...Then again. He might not know about BH 209. Now he has options. He got plenty of info on the powders he asked for. I shot T7 and Pyro for years. It works, but i think BH is a better hunting powder. If for no other reason that it doesn't absorb moisture, and if you don't find it more accurate than the other powders. It will be just as accurate. As for being corrosive? I need to see an official test to believe it. Not saying it doesn't, but I need to see it. For me...I get no corrosion.



TNH..The guns that don't have a problem shooting BH. Don't have to use a special primer. My Omega that has a great BP for BH would shoot any primer except the ML primers. The CVA will do the same wit a BH BP.

It's only the guns that don't have great BP's that need the hot primers. Like a CVA with the stock BP.
OK then I say I have used them all except Swiss, but I choose to use T7 because it works best for me in my parameters. I long ago ruled out pellets. Just weigh the pellets individually out of one box that will give you a good idea of why I do not rely on them.

BH is a great powder and I agree with all that say it is but for myself the cost per shot rules it out. The is not anything that BH offers that I can not get from T7 except the patch work which really is not a factor. Also maybe I am fortunate T7 in this area remains at $20 per pound.

If it were not for the fact that I burn 7-10 lbs of powder a year and the cost of a like amount of BH I would be shooting it, so it is all economics to me.

If you are an occasional shooter - shoot BH just do not believe all of the hype that you hear.

As said BH is good but it is not the end of the world...
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Old 09-27-2012 | 08:04 AM
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What do you mean he has plenty of info on the powders he asked about? He obviously doesn't or he wouldn't have been asking for opinions. You were also the first one to reply to his thread and you didn't give him any information on the powders at question. Its like going into the gun shop to look at a gun or two and the guy behind the counter hands you something else telling you its way better than what you want to see. Well me personally wouldn't decline seeing that gun that he thinks is better but I want to see my choices first and then maybe hear what he has to say about something different.
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Old 09-27-2012 | 08:04 AM
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I did say BH is a good hunting powder. Price wouldn't even matter for that.

If I was going to spend all the time I use to at the range. I'd use something else.

Still don't know why you don't get a crud ring Mike? Unless you're swabbing it out all the time?
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Old 09-27-2012 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by chaded
What do you mean he has plenty of info on the powders he asked about? He obviously doesn't or he wouldn't have been asking for opinions. You were also the first one to reply to his thread and you didn't give him any information on the powders at question. Its like going into the gun shop to look at a gun or two and the guy behind the counter hands you something else telling you its way better than what you want to see. Well me personally wouldn't decline seeing that gun that he thinks is better but I want to see my choices first and then maybe hear what he has to say about something different.
He didn't get answers about T7 and Pyro in this thread? Why do you always want to argue? I give my opinion. Sorry, if you don't agree. I don't agree with a lot of things said on this forum. That's how forums are.

btw..Why don't you say something to all the others that said they like BH 209? I also didn't tell him to use BH. I simply said that's what I like better.

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