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Old 09-01-2012 | 09:04 AM
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Maybe it's cheap labor that makes Bergara barrels, but they're still better than TC barrels, and better than Knight who doesn't even make barrels.

Knight puts kits together. That's not a gun maker.
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Old 09-01-2012 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
Maybe it's cheap labor that makes Bergara barrels, but they're still better than TC barrels, and better than Knight who doesn't even make barrels.

Knight puts kits together. That's not a gun maker.
Muley... BPI doesn't make theirs either BPI contracts all parts of the rifles to be made for them... made and assembled in europe...

BPI- is a holding company who bought the CVA name

BPI Outdoors is the parent company to many highly successful brands in the hunting & shooting industry, including CVA®, PowerBelt® Bullets™, Quake Industries™, DuraSight™ Scope Mounts, and Bergara Barrels™. BPI is located in Duluth, Georgia.
The only things that are made here are Power Belts - DuraSights - and Quake products... The American Companies they BPI bought the name CVA was bought. Rifle and the rifle parts are contracted from Europe.

CVA doen not make the stocks, the frames, the triggers or even the ran rod
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Old 09-01-2012 | 09:16 AM
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BPI owns the barrel making plant.
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Old 09-01-2012 | 09:17 AM
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I know the CVA guns aren't made here. I wasn't aware they didn't make all those parts though.

How did you find this out?
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Old 09-01-2012 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
I know the CVA guns aren't made here. I wasn't aware they didn't make all those parts though.

How did you find this out?
Dikar Co-op owns the barrel plant that makes Bergara barrels - Bergara is the name BPI uses to set their barrels apart from the other barrels made there.... But those barrels are made to BPI Specifications and carry the Bergara name.

http://www.importgenius.com/suppliers/dikar-s-coop
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Old 09-01-2012 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sabotloader
Dikar Co-op owns the barrel plant that makes Bergara barrels - Bergara is the name BPI uses to set their barrels apart from the other barrels made there.... But those barrels are made to BPI Specifications and carry the Bergara name.

http://www.importgenius.com/suppliers/dikar-s-coop
I know about the barrels. I was talking about the stock, frame, trigger, and ramrod you mentioned.
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Old 09-01-2012 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
Maybe it's cheap labor that makes Bergara barrels, but they're still better than TC barrels, and better than Knight who doesn't even make barrels.

Knight puts kits together. That's not a gun maker.
This makes no sense. Okay I can almost understand what you are saying when you say Bergara barrels are better than TC barrels, I am assuming you mean accuracy or whatever. But how do you say Bergara barrels are better than Knight who doesn't even make barrels?? Are you saying Bergara barrels are better than Knight barrels or Knight as a company or what? Or are you saying that even though Bergara barrels are made by cheap foreign labor and is under one parent company that they are better then Knight that is an American company that outsources their barrels from another American company?
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Old 09-01-2012 | 10:02 AM
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I think you got it son.

However, if SL is right about CVA outsourcing all those parts. My argument is moot, and i'm disappointed.

Good thing I got a deal on the gun.
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Old 09-01-2012 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
I think you got it son.

However, if SL is right about CVA outsourcing all those parts. My argument is moot, and i'm disappointed.

Good thing I got a deal on the gun.
The fact that BPI is outsourcing, makes it no less the rifle you should expect. The fact remains that BPI detirmines the specifications of what they outsource, they just choose to do it with cheaper foreign labor in the skilled area... which equates to less money out of your pocket. The real problem as I see it is where does the American 'blue collar' worker go when his job has gone off-shore. Just makes you realize that the gap between the upper class and the lower class is widening and at some point there may not be a middle class until a national crisis requires the skilled labor.
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Old 09-01-2012 | 10:22 AM
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Well, it's my money to spend. If there was another American made ML with a break action, good barrel, good trigger, weighed a little over 6lbs, and not expensive. I'll buy it.

It also can't be TC, because S&W can kiss my rump!

You still didn't give me the source that says CVA doesn't make those parts?
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