Black Powder Ask opinions of other hunters on new technology, gear, and the methods of blackpowder hunting.

Reason for regulations

Old 07-10-2012 | 12:15 PM
  #1  
1874sharpsshooter
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Reason for regulations

I'm sure there are good reasons for most of the regulations that exist in regards to hunting, but some of them are still hard for me to understand.
For example where I live you must use a 45 cal muzzleloader or larger.
I cannot use a .410 White for muzzy season. It's to small of a caliber according to the regs.
below in the picture the bullet on the right is a 410 gr for the .410 White . It is not legal for muzzy season
The bullet on the left is a 45 cal. It is legal
Yet during rifle season the regulations say that any shoulder held firearm producing 1000 ft pounds at the muzzle is legal for deer.
1500 ft pounds at the muzzle for Elk.
with only 90 gr of pyrodex or 777 I can meet the requirements so that I could hunt deer or elk with my 410 white during rifle season
but I cant use it for muzzy season


017 by 1874sharpsshooter, on Flickr

Oh well I dont make the rules I just follow them.
 
Reply
Old 07-10-2012 | 12:27 PM
  #2  
cayugad's Avatar
Dominant Buck
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,193
Likes: 0
From: Wisconsin
Default

They do that more so for the person that might have say a .40 caliber GMB and wants to shoot a .390 caliber roundball. Some of the small roundball barrels do not do well with large powder loads. So they lack in knock down power. And while I think a roundball even that small could kill deer at close range, it just is done because of the idiots that would be trying to knock one down at 100 or 150 yards. That is how it was explained to me by a warden when I asked the same question.

Now that .410 White you have is a game killer. That conical bullet would plant near any critter. But one reason they never interested me is it is basically a range rifle. Fun to shoot. Probably deadly accurate. But not legal for muzzle loader season. The same reason I did not purchase an Electra when they were on sale. In Wisconsin they are not legal in muzzleloader season. But they are in our modern rifle season. So it would be a range rifle toy.
cayugad is offline  
Reply
Old 07-10-2012 | 12:32 PM
  #3  
1874sharpsshooter
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Originally Posted by cayugad
They do that more so for the person that might have say a .40 caliber GMB and wants to shoot a .390 caliber roundball. Some of the small roundball barrels do not do well with large powder loads. So they lack in knock down power. And while I think a roundball even that small could kill deer at close range, it just is done because of the idiots that would be trying to knock one down at 100 or 150 yards. That is how it was explained to me by a warden when I asked the same question.

Now that .410 White you have is a game killer. That conical bullet would plant near any critter. But one reason they never interested me is it is basically a range rifle. Fun to shoot. Probably deadly accurate. But not legal for muzzle loader season. The same reason I did not purchase an Electra when they were on sale. In Wisconsin they are not legal in muzzleloader season. But they are in our modern rifle season. So it would be a range rifle toy.
yep. Basically the same here, it's been a range rifle toy. But I think I will use it during rifle season this year just to see how it does in knocking a big mulie down. I only hunt with a muzzy even during rifle season so i might as well give it a chance
 
Reply
Old 07-10-2012 | 01:05 PM
  #4  
Giant Nontypical
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,425
Likes: 0
Default

If the barrel isn't marked .410, I'd be inclined to use it....
nchawkeye is offline  
Reply
Old 07-10-2012 | 05:06 PM
  #5  
bronko22000's Avatar
Boone & Crockett
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 12,823
Likes: 5
From: Eastern PA
Default

Well at least here in PA the cal is .44 or larger.
bronko22000 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-11-2012 | 07:11 AM
  #6  
oldsmellhound's Avatar
Nontypical Buck
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,482
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Default

Ohio is lucky I guess, muzzleloading rifles of .38 caliber or larger are legal. Sorry for your predicament...
oldsmellhound is offline  
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.