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1874sharpsshooter 07-10-2012 12:15 PM

Reason for regulations
 
I'm sure there are good reasons for most of the regulations that exist in regards to hunting, but some of them are still hard for me to understand.
For example where I live you must use a 45 cal muzzleloader or larger.
I cannot use a .410 White for muzzy season. It's to small of a caliber according to the regs.
below in the picture the bullet on the right is a 410 gr for the .410 White . It is not legal for muzzy season
The bullet on the left is a 45 cal. It is legal
Yet during rifle season the regulations say that any shoulder held firearm producing 1000 ft pounds at the muzzle is legal for deer.
1500 ft pounds at the muzzle for Elk.
with only 90 gr of pyrodex or 777 I can meet the requirements so that I could hunt deer or elk with my 410 white during rifle season :D:D
but I cant use it for muzzy season:confused0024::confused0024:


017 by 1874sharpsshooter, on Flickr

Oh well I dont make the rules I just follow them.

cayugad 07-10-2012 12:27 PM

They do that more so for the person that might have say a .40 caliber GMB and wants to shoot a .390 caliber roundball. Some of the small roundball barrels do not do well with large powder loads. So they lack in knock down power. And while I think a roundball even that small could kill deer at close range, it just is done because of the idiots that would be trying to knock one down at 100 or 150 yards. That is how it was explained to me by a warden when I asked the same question.

Now that .410 White you have is a game killer. That conical bullet would plant near any critter. But one reason they never interested me is it is basically a range rifle. Fun to shoot. Probably deadly accurate. But not legal for muzzle loader season. The same reason I did not purchase an Electra when they were on sale. In Wisconsin they are not legal in muzzleloader season. But they are in our modern rifle season. So it would be a range rifle toy.

1874sharpsshooter 07-10-2012 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 3950723)
They do that more so for the person that might have say a .40 caliber GMB and wants to shoot a .390 caliber roundball. Some of the small roundball barrels do not do well with large powder loads. So they lack in knock down power. And while I think a roundball even that small could kill deer at close range, it just is done because of the idiots that would be trying to knock one down at 100 or 150 yards. That is how it was explained to me by a warden when I asked the same question.

Now that .410 White you have is a game killer. That conical bullet would plant near any critter. But one reason they never interested me is it is basically a range rifle. Fun to shoot. Probably deadly accurate. But not legal for muzzle loader season. The same reason I did not purchase an Electra when they were on sale. In Wisconsin they are not legal in muzzleloader season. But they are in our modern rifle season. So it would be a range rifle toy.

yep. Basically the same here, it's been a range rifle toy. But I think I will use it during rifle season this year just to see how it does in knocking a big mulie down. :D I only hunt with a muzzy even during rifle season so i might as well give it a chance

nchawkeye 07-10-2012 01:05 PM

If the barrel isn't marked .410, I'd be inclined to use it.... :)

bronko22000 07-10-2012 05:06 PM

Well at least here in PA the cal is .44 or larger.

oldsmellhound 07-11-2012 07:11 AM

Ohio is lucky I guess, muzzleloading rifles of .38 caliber or larger are legal. Sorry for your predicament...


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