Hey guys new to the forum, seems like some real good info and knowledgeable people on here...This place has one of the better muzzleloader sections that I have come across...


I am currently shooting a Omega, i really love the gun and she shoots like a dream!!! Consistently shooting sub MOA groups at 100yds. My current recipe is: 90grains of BH209, 340grain dead center bullets, behind CCI primers.

I have been eyeballing the Knight mountaineer, it seems like one hell of a gun, my only experience with a knight is a friend of mine has a LRH, its a sweet gun I really like the trigger and feel of the gun, I mainly hunt form a stand but I do a good bit of still hunting esp when there is some good tracking snow on the ground in the late season. And I just dont care for the feel of the stock on the LRH, if only hunting from a stand it would be fine but it just seems uncomfortable to carry

So im just looking for some input from some folks that have experience with the mountaineer, sucks for me that there is'nt a dealer near me that I can get my hands on one to handle, all i have to go by is pictures and feedback from people

Welcome to the forum. From all I read, its a great rifle. But like you, living in the middle of no where... handling a rifle is hard to do.

While I don't own either the LRH or Mountaineer, I have handled both.

The Mountaineer has much less stock than the LRH and is more like a Disc Extreme Laminate (which I do have ) if you've ever had your hands on one of these.

Good luck on whatever you decide to do.

Wow, an Omega and a Mountaineer. You are going to have a very cool battery of rifles. Are you interested in the thumbhole or the traditional stock?

Welcome to the forum! Yep, there's some great guys here...and alot of knowledge as well. Can't help you on the mountaineer...I'd like to hold one someday too! LOL

I currently have an Omega, Triumph, and few Knights, not mentioning others, but I hunt with a Knight. Could be an Elite, Extreme, or my new Mountaineer.

Basically the Mountaineer is a upgraded Extreme, the stocks (not near as bulky or as heavy as the LRH) and the barreled action are basically the same other than the barrel is an inch longer (27") which I really wish they had not done, but an online poll indicated that is what most wanted. For you that would be perfect for hunting from a stand. The Mountaineer also has the same trigger as the LRH. And the barreled action is also equipped with a larger more stabilizing 'fork recoil lug' or what Knight calls a Cantilever Lug as is the LRH. The barreled action of the Mountaineer is built to little tighter specs than the new Extremes and the bolt and breech plug are different offerning a NFPJ primer (bare primer), well you can also get a FPJ if you choose to do so (Full Plastic Jacket).

This was my first outing with my new Mountaineer...



I like it... so far. This was the first 3 shots from the new gun after bore sighting at home.

Hey guys thanks for the info,

sabot: as I understand you can get the mountaineer with either the "bare primer" or in the FPJ, any advantage disadvantage here ?

Also how easy is it to load a primer into the bolt, is it doable with gloves on ? Do you use a tool to load or just drop the primer into the slot on the bolt?

Dutch : Im looking at a thumhole laminated stock

go with the bare primer. The jacket stuff isnt worth a spit IMO.

Oh darn you had to ask those questions didnt ya!!!

So here are my answers...

1. the NFPJ in a Mountaineer can be a problem loading with gloves or on cold hunt. The NFPJ is a much cleaner in the breech area and insures that most all of the hot primer gasses are directed directly to the powder (especially important with BH). I also believe with the correct primer in place the NFPJ is near 99% water and water vapor proof.
2. the FPJ is 100% water and water vapor proof. It is easier to handle and load in most all conditions. it is and does allow some blow back gasses to collect in the breech area and because of this coats the breech area with residue. Which in the old days we would never have considered a problem. It does work and shoot BH. And according to Knight they sell far more FPJ systems than they do NFPJ - but I prefer NFPJ.
3. Loading the NFPJ in a Mountaineer.... at the range - not a problem especially after you develope the technique. Hunting I consider it a hurdle - but if I do my job on the first shot I should not hve to worry about it... but because i want to be a little more prepared - I built myself a very crude capper...





These work very well and are very easy to find in your pocket and since the primer is water proof, handling like this is not problem... And patting myself on the back - they work really well, someone making a commercial model would even be better and I think that is going to be done and hopefully offered by Knight.

The laminate thumbhole stocks that come with the 2011 Mountaineer are really good stocks and fit very well to the barreled action. I am just not a wood stock person any longer as my hunting weather and hunting conditions are really tough on wood.

Think I got everything...

mike

Thank you much for the info !!!