Originally Posted by
spltlim
Hey guys thanks for the info,
sabot: as I understand you can get the mountaineer with either the "bare primer" or in the FPJ, any advantage disadvantage here ?
Oh darn you had to ask those questions didnt ya!!!
Also how easy is it to load a primer into the bolt, is it doable with gloves on ? Do you use a tool to load or just drop the primer into the slot on the bolt?
Dutch : Im looking at a thumhole laminated stock
So here are my answers...
1. the NFPJ in a Mountaineer can be a problem loading with gloves or on cold hunt. The NFPJ is a much cleaner in the breech area and insures that most all of the hot primer gasses are directed directly to the powder (especially important with BH). I also believe with the correct primer in place the NFPJ is near 99% water and water vapor proof.
2. the FPJ is 100% water and water vapor proof. It is easier to handle and load in most all conditions. it is and does allow some blow back gasses to collect in the breech area and because of this coats the breech area with residue. Which in the old days we would never have considered a problem. It does work and shoot BH. And according to Knight they sell far more FPJ systems than they do NFPJ - but I prefer NFPJ.
3. Loading the NFPJ in a Mountaineer.... at the range - not a problem especially after you develope the technique. Hunting I consider it a hurdle - but if I do my job on the first shot I should not hve to worry about it... but because i want to be a little more prepared - I built myself a very crude capper...
These work very well and are very easy to find in your pocket and since the primer is water proof, handling like this is not problem... And patting myself on the back - they work really well, someone making a commercial model would even be better and I think that is going to be done and hopefully offered by Knight.
The laminate thumbhole stocks that come with the 2011 Mountaineer are really good stocks and fit very well to the barreled action. I am just not a wood stock person any longer as my hunting weather and hunting conditions are really tough on wood.
Think I got everything...
mike