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Grouse45 12-13-2011 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by mountaineer magic (Post 3889389)
And if you dont want to cast bullets Parker has Conicals. I have 4 packs left, and they shoot good.

Dont forget the 52 uses .458 bullets. Remington, Hornady, Speer, Barnes, Lehigh, etc all make .458 bullets.;)

josh...just josh 12-13-2011 04:43 PM

if knight made a fast twist .45 I'd also be a customer, especially if Lehigh is going to make some high BC 200gr+ .40 cals!!

mountaineer magic 12-13-2011 04:45 PM

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builder459 12-13-2011 05:01 PM

I agree with Lehigh Dave's assessment if your a match shooter and a machinist. the problem isn't quality bullets, it's the "length" of the bullets a 1:20 shoots well.Chet posted a great example with the 240 gr dead center bullet.if hornady or speer would make a special M/L bullet for the .40 cal, that weighed in at.225-.240 gr they would be tack drivers. why? the length of the bullet.the 185 gr Lehigh and the Barnes .195 are at the top of spectrum length wise due to the material there made from and both shoot well in the 1:20.the longer Lehigh 200 gr has to be pushed, since it's actually long for caliber.the 1:20 problems are not sabots or the twist.jacket or solid material bullets are the way to go if one wants a flat shooting bullet.the pure lead offerings can only be pushed so far before they start having problems of there own."point and case" the hornady SST and the Harvester PT gold plated bullets are among the most accurate on the market.this subject has been covered many times and it comes down to length of bullets for caliber not weight or even quality.

donjose 12-13-2011 05:03 PM

Yep,
I dont see the point of using anything else other than a 195 Barnes Expander MZ in a 45 cal..

mountaineer magic 12-13-2011 05:07 PM

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builder459 12-13-2011 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3889365)
I really don't see a point with a 1:20 twist. I get amazing accuracy with a 454gr conical and a slow 1:48 twist. A 1:20 twist would be for something that none of us shoot..... 700gr conicals.

Now with the " some bullets will shoot worse" theory, it sounds like a bigger oopsie than when they came out with the .52cal.

Jon if you think your accuracy is amazing with a 454 gr in a 1:48, you would be blown away with a Knight rifle in 1:28 with a .460 gr slip fit conical.

MountainDevil54 12-13-2011 05:10 PM

It would be extremely hard to out do the group i shot lol. No matter what bullet or barrel twist.

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