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Muley Hunter 11-15-2011 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by TNHagies (Post 3876787)

Westerners, explain that logic to us Easterners. Why don't you count all the points?

I can't. I was born and brought up back east.

I go along with it, because I don't want to called a doofus.

pluckit 11-15-2011 11:59 PM

I thought it was a mule deer that was called a 4x4 if it had 4 points on each antler. And a white tail was always called by the total number of points on both antlers no matter where you are from?

MountainDevil54 11-16-2011 12:20 AM

i count all points on a deer. Like the Colorado DOW booklet tells you to do. ;)

SuperKirby 11-16-2011 03:58 AM

I will always be a Wyomingite at heart. Currently I'm a Minnesotan by wife. I will always refer to my deer as a 2x2 or a 5x5 or whatever it may be. Here's the best I can figure it.

First, how many deer have you seen that have a different number of points on each side? It's much more descriptive to tell how many points are on each side. Just saying it's a 10 point could imply that there's one weird antler growing straight out of the middle of its head and it has 10 stickers growing out of it.

The other reason, and I suspect this is probably more likely, is it makes the deer bigger.
Example: If you measure a room, you give the dimensions of each side, such as 5'x5'. But technically the room is 25'. Using the same very obvious math, Chets deer is 5 points x 5 points. So Chet, you can refer to your deer as a 5x5 because your humble, but in all honesty that would be a 25 point.

ronlaughlin 11-16-2011 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by TNHagies (Post 3876787)
......................Westerners, explain that logic to us Easterners. Why don't you count all the points?

We don't walk when we can ride; we don't stand when we can sit; we don't count when we don't need to.

We are economical with just about everything, including words. When a fella comes into hunting camp to share stories by the fire, he say i killed me a 6 point bull today; or he say i killed a 5 point whitetail this morning. The vast majority of mule deer are 4 point bucks. Some are big, some are old, some are young, some are small. Usually a mule deer buck is a 4 point, unless it is a fork horn. We talk this way, because our dad, grandpa, or uncle did. We haven't thought about why.

A possible 'why', may be whilst hunting, and one sees a bull, or a buck, one quick glance at the antlers reveals to the 'seasoned' hunter a 4 point buck, or a 5, or 6 point bull without counting. The seasoned hunter doesn't count points as he is getting ready to shoot, he just glances at the antlers, and 'knows' it is a 4 point mule deer, or a 6 point bull.

Westerners don't seem to waste effort. Westerners don't walk when they can ride, nor stand when they can sit, nor count when they 'know'. Ma may still think me lazy, but i think me is economical.

TNHagies 11-16-2011 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by ronlaughlin (Post 3876977)
We don't walk when we can ride; we don't stand when we can sit; we don't count when we don't need to.

We are economical with just about everything, including words. When a fella comes into hunting camp to share stories by the fire, he say i killed me a 6 point bull today; or he say i killed a 5 point whitetail this morning. The vast majority of mule deer are 4 point bucks. Some are big, some are old, some are young, some are small. Usually a mule deer buck is a 4 point, unless it is a fork horn. We talk this way, because our dad, grandpa, or uncle did. We haven't thought about why.

A possible 'why', may be whilst hunting, and one sees a bull, or a buck, one quick glance at the antlers reveals to the 'seasoned' hunter a 4 point buck, or a 5, or 6 point bull without counting. The seasoned hunter doesn't count points as he is getting ready to shoot, he just glances at the antlers, and 'knows' it is a 4 point mule deer, or a 6 point bull.

Westerners don't seem to waste effort. Westerners don't walk when they can ride, nor stand when they can sit, nor count when they 'know'. Ma may still think me lazy, but i think me is economical.

And that's perfectly fine. I just never knew the reason behind it. Sounds like from what you're saying is just 'the way it's always been'.

FWIW, I don't count points when I see buck. I do that after they are on the ground :s4: and I can take as much time as I like then.

JW 11-16-2011 05:53 AM

I may get in trouble for this but it might be antlers with over 10 points they have to take their shoes off to count and its cold out there!
Thus counting points using one hand works better.

JW

Muley Hunter 11-16-2011 06:02 AM

You're in trouble.

Who's got the rope!!

Big Z 11-16-2011 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by mountaineer magic (Post 3876601)
It seems that it only kills 5x5's.

Hey, I got a couple buds with that same problem!! Here's their dinks from a few days ago:


nchawkeye 11-16-2011 07:04 AM

Westerners were all Easterners at one time...

It always tickles me that folks from Texas think they are so special...
Who in the heck settled Texas???

Folks from back East... :)


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