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Old 09-13-2011 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by sabotloader
You know WCW - I really feel somewhat bad for you that you let a few very biased posters provide you information in PM's that reflected their personal feelings. The part that is really bad - is that you as a profession could not see through these personality conflicts and took their information as fact.

Ray set you up - offered you a carrot and you bought it without confirming the information with people that have the facts.

I believe they had a discussion the other day on 'flash mob' actions gone bad - you really might have benefited from that professional discussion. In my opinion you are dealing with a 'flash mob' that started many months ago with a former moderator on this forum passing personal biases and false information that a few now have grabbed and enlisted themselves as the pennant carriers.

Just for you and Ray I believe I can clear up some of it at a later date. A brand new 2011 Knight manual is in the mail system someplace with the current Knight load recommendations.

If you are unable to wait you personally should call Don @ Western Powders and discuss the information you already have. He is far ahead of the 'flash mob' with vital information about his powder in various muzzleloaders that are on the open market.
Mike,As usual your assuming things.i set WCW up for nothing, he was debating and being PM'ed long before i personally pmed him.your aware of what happens when a person assumes things.as stated earlier in this post, your "buddy" is offensive and posts simply for the joy of causing conflict with others.he is smug and a ego maniac. you need to read the thread. flash mob doesn't apply here, read the definition of the word.as far as Knight is concerned, i don't really care what they print in any manual. you know as well as i do the max load western powders calls out and you know why i feel excessive loads are bad idea,especially when posted in a open forum.and finally do not try and blame me for your moronic buddies actions, that sounds like something he would do and i am certain you don't want to be included in his class of people! Nuff said! Ray
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Old 09-13-2011 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by builder459
Mike,As usual your assuming things.i set WCW up for nothing, he was debating and being PM'ed long before i personally pmed him.your aware of what happens when a person assumes things.as stated earlier in this post, your "buddy" is offensive and posts simply for the joy of causing conflict with others.he is smug and a ego maniac.
That is your personal opinions and you are welcome to them but you are one of few. There are many others on this forum that may not feel the same way. You have let another few infulence you as well... Shoot I do not always agree with hime or you but I certainly do not wage war and loose sleep over an opinion I have no influence on.

You know, and this is just my opinion, you are not the person selcted by this forum to be the moderator-cop--administrator-watchdog... you really should take all of your information to the the forum administrator, they have ears and eyes and the ability to make decisions. Publish it to him allow him and then allow him to make a decision and them live with that decision. If you can not live with the decision - move.

Further, your personal PM to WCM that discusses the reason for Grouse's dismissal from Modern Muzzleloader is also incrorrect - in fact it is not even close you are passing false information on that one I also. Remember I know the basis of that dismissal and as a forum administrator had a vote in the dismissal at the time.

Seriously find another horse

you need to read the thread. flash mob doesn't apply here, read the definition of the word.
You may be write so we can just call it a gang... kinda like a few street bulleys...

as far as Knight is concerned, i don't really care what they print in any manual. you know as well as i do the max load western powders calls out and you know why i feel excessive loads are bad idea,especially when posted in a open forum.
That certainly is your choice... and other have they choice of following the manufactures guidelines. And as your friend WCF suggests and you should also agree to no-one should be shooting over a 100 grains of Hodgdon powders either... Come to think about it why are you not on that crusade also... Lots of folks shoot more than 100 grains of T7 and publish that every day. And come to think about no-one should be shooting T7 in a TC they have no published loads for that either. In fact they recommend BP and Pyro only... That would be another good cause for you - or is it only the person doing the posting that deserves the cause?

and finally do not try and blame me for your moronic buddies actions, that sounds like something he would do and i am certain you don't want to be included in his class of people! Nuff said! Ray
Those are your words shows the amount of inflammation and bias that you have to an individual... No-one other than Grouse is responsible for him - certainly not me OR YOU.

When he posts loads he posts loads that are within Knight and Green Mountains specifications for that barrel system as most of us follow.

You are crying up the wrong creek.
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Old 09-13-2011 | 07:54 AM
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Your responses are dead wrong and you continue to blame me for starting something i didn't start.you really need to find another scape goat and take a close look at all the people said person has offended personally many times on this forum.your starting to sound a awful lot like him!
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Old 09-13-2011 | 08:31 AM
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Oh Yawn. I think I've seen this movie already.
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Old 09-13-2011 | 08:39 AM
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Yep, I'm going to turn it off and do some shooting.
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Old 09-13-2011 | 09:31 AM
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By you being fully cognizant of the content of the private messages I forward to Grouse it seems that he is nothing more than the persona of your alter ego. I now firmly believe that you and he are one in the same person. Even you should realize that I used Ray to to uncover you and humbly apologize to him for doing so. If I am wrong Grouse came crying to you that “some people don't love me”. I will use a private message to fully explain my conclusions. I will particularly be paying close attention the similarities in phraseology, vocabulary, punctuation and spelling in the postings by both your nom de plumes on this and other threads.
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Old 09-13-2011 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by WCW
Sagotloader

By you being fully cognizant of the content of the private messages I forward to Grouse it seems that he is nothing more than the persona of your alter ego. I now firmly believe that you and he are one in the same person. Even you should realize that I used Ray to to uncover you and humbly apologize to him for doing so. If I am wrong Grouse came crying to you that “some people don't love me”. I will use a private message to fully explain my conclusions. I will particularly be paying close attention the similarities in phraseology, vocabulary, punctuation and spelling in the postings by both your nom de plumes on this and other threads.
The only conclusion that I can come to from these posts of yours...

Are you for real???

I once thought you were...
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Old 09-13-2011 | 09:34 AM
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Give it a break for a while WCW. You are getting a little off base. I can attest that they are two separate individuals.
Maybe you are just trying to be funny I can't tell anymore.

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Old 09-13-2011 | 09:38 AM
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If you provide your address I will be more than happy to forward you my bona fides, copies of my diplomas and licenses to practice.
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Old 09-13-2011 | 11:13 AM
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Yep, we have another thread that turned into a crap throwing contest.
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