Let's Play "Shoot The Shill"
08-07-2011 | 06:12 PM
#21
Nontypical Buck
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I don't know for ceratin either mulie. i have seen attempts in CVA .50 cal with pure lead full bore conicals, in experienced hands and they were not real impressive.like i said maybe they can and if so i would buy one toot sweet. if not then it's a knight, which are excellent full bore lead conical shooters.. Ray
08-07-2011 | 06:13 PM
#22
Giant Nontypical
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builder459
My Accura 45 shot the 300gr PB Plat, PR Ultimate Tipped 360gr and the Hornady 285 GP fairly good. It preferred the 300gr PB Plat that is discontinued IIRC. Shot at a low fps it is probably fine but avoid heavy loads. If you really want to shoot lead conical 45s...get a White. Almost nothing will match them with cheap subs and cheap lead. The White Super 91 in 451 is just plain nasty and will handle bullets near 500grs at 1300fps or more...I even know where one is in SS for $300 IIRC.
Why not try sabotless? all they need is a couple sizing dies or one expensive Swinglock adjustable die. A 1-28 twist should shoot upto a 250gr ok with a heavy amount of BH209. Parker 250gr BEs are one of the easiest to get fitted and shooting well. In a 50cal the bullet selection isnt a problem for sabotless but sizing dies are an issue. Faster twists like 1-24 make it much easier too. Slow twist like my Knight 45 are a PITA and a 225gr is about max sabotless. The Original with the 1-20 though will shoot big lead or sabotless just fine. It just takes more load work.
My Accura 45 shot the 300gr PB Plat, PR Ultimate Tipped 360gr and the Hornady 285 GP fairly good. It preferred the 300gr PB Plat that is discontinued IIRC. Shot at a low fps it is probably fine but avoid heavy loads. If you really want to shoot lead conical 45s...get a White. Almost nothing will match them with cheap subs and cheap lead. The White Super 91 in 451 is just plain nasty and will handle bullets near 500grs at 1300fps or more...I even know where one is in SS for $300 IIRC.
Why not try sabotless? all they need is a couple sizing dies or one expensive Swinglock adjustable die. A 1-28 twist should shoot upto a 250gr ok with a heavy amount of BH209. Parker 250gr BEs are one of the easiest to get fitted and shooting well. In a 50cal the bullet selection isnt a problem for sabotless but sizing dies are an issue. Faster twists like 1-24 make it much easier too. Slow twist like my Knight 45 are a PITA and a 225gr is about max sabotless. The Original with the 1-20 though will shoot big lead or sabotless just fine. It just takes more load work.
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08-07-2011 | 06:14 PM
#23
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Boone & Crockett
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
I would not shoot one! after the bad hype of the old barrels, that is all i would think about everytime i pulled the trigger
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Don't they know about those Ford Pintos blowing up in the 1970's? 
08-07-2011 | 06:19 PM
#24
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Boone & Crockett
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From: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
My God they were gullible. LOL
They say confession is good for the soul. So I thought all of the other shills out there would finally come clean.
08-07-2011 | 06:32 PM
#26
Typical Buck
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From: Indianapolis, IN
08-07-2011 | 06:33 PM
#27
Nontypical Buck
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From: Yucca Valley,Ca
builder459
My Accura 45 shot the 300gr PB Plat, PR Ultimate Tipped 360gr and the Hornady 285 GP fairly good. It preferred the 300gr PB Plat that is discontinued IIRC. Shot at a low fps it is probably fine but avoid heavy loads. If you really want to shoot lead conical 45s...get a White. Almost nothing will match them with cheap subs and cheap lead.
Why not try sabotless? all they need is a couple sizing dies or one expensive Swinglock adjustable die. A 1-28 twist should shoot upto a 250gr ok with a heavy amount of BH209. Parker 250gr BEs are one of the easiest to get fitted and shooting well. In a 50cal the bullet selection isnt a problem for sabotless but sizing dies are an issue. Faster twists like 1-24 make it much easier too. Slow twist like my Knight 45 are a PITA and a 225gr is about max sabotless.
My Accura 45 shot the 300gr PB Plat, PR Ultimate Tipped 360gr and the Hornady 285 GP fairly good. It preferred the 300gr PB Plat that is discontinued IIRC. Shot at a low fps it is probably fine but avoid heavy loads. If you really want to shoot lead conical 45s...get a White. Almost nothing will match them with cheap subs and cheap lead.
Why not try sabotless? all they need is a couple sizing dies or one expensive Swinglock adjustable die. A 1-28 twist should shoot upto a 250gr ok with a heavy amount of BH209. Parker 250gr BEs are one of the easiest to get fitted and shooting well. In a 50cal the bullet selection isnt a problem for sabotless but sizing dies are an issue. Faster twists like 1-24 make it much easier too. Slow twist like my Knight 45 are a PITA and a 225gr is about max sabotless.
08-07-2011 | 06:43 PM
#29
Giant Nontypical
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I think all current CVA 45s are 1-28 not 1-25. The 45-300gr PB really isnt that bad, just dont push it. The rest suck IMO. Shoot it slow like any other conical. Those are the only three i remember shooting. It shot a 200gr SST and 100gr BH209 just fine so i didn't play with conicals too much and the bore was so large that sabotless would have been a PITA to shoot the bullets i wanted to try. Then i did try a few modded bullets and when the powder charge got high enough to stabilize them, the primers started to flow so i gave up on sabotless for awhile and sold it.
I will be playing with sabotless again before the season starts and my new bullets arrive.
I will be playing with sabotless again before the season starts and my new bullets arrive.
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08-07-2011 | 06:49 PM
#30
Nontypical Buck
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From: Yucca Valley,Ca
I think all current CVA 45s are 1-28 not 1-25. The 45-300gr PB really isnt that bad, just dont push it. The rest suck IMO. Shoot it slow like any other conical. Those are the only three i remember shooting. It shot a 200gr SST and 100gr BH209 just fine so i didn't play with conicals too much and the bore was so large that sabotless would have been a PITA to shoot the bullets i wanted to try. Then i did try a few modded bullets and when the powder charge got high enough to stabilize them, the primers started to flow so i gave up on sabotless for awhile and sold it.
I will be playing with sabotless again before the season starts and my new bullets arrive.
I will be playing with sabotless again before the season starts and my new bullets arrive.