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Old 08-06-2011 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Grouse45
Knight is coming out with a break action. Can it or will it be better then a Triumph? That's a very tall task in my opinion, but it sure will be fun trying.
Sure it could, It would be hard to get it to shoot better but do able but they could start by making it available in good quality stainless and with an adjustable trigger a bit better design on the stock with different thickness but plate to change the length of pull. A spring backed pivot point so that wear or tolerance did not affect the group shooting capability and a 45 degree lock up with a lever and spring system that was strong enough to really lock it in place [ Triumph's is good but easily improved on] any good gunsmith could show you many ways to improve on the Triumph.
I believe that the biggest problem with modern design is that engineers are doing it they understand many things but the intricacies of barrel whip and accuracy are not taught in school if they severed a 7 year apprenticeship working on guns under an old Master they could learn things they have yet to even hear of.
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Old 08-06-2011 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by lemoyne
Sure it could, It would be hard to get it to shoot better but do able but they could start by making it available in good quality stainless and with an adjustable trigger a bit better design on the stock with different thickness but plate to change the length of pull. A spring backed pivot point so that wear or tolerance did not affect the group shooting capability and a 45 degree lock up with a lever and spring system that was strong enough to really lock it in place [ Triumph's is good but easily improved on] any good gunsmith could show you many ways to improve on the Triumph.
I believe that the biggest problem with modern design is that engineers are doing it they understand many things but the intricacies of barrel whip and accuracy are not taught in school if they severed a 7 year apprenticeship working on guns under an old Master they could learn things they have yet to even hear of.
I know what you mean. The Triumph to me is a well built ML and would last most forever.

The break action (Vision) length of pool is being changed, the trigger is being changed to adjustable, the trigger will also be one piece, the recoil pad is going to be changed, and something else that i know of. Just don't remember right now.
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Old 08-06-2011 | 11:59 AM
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It will be hard pressed for someone to make a better inline then the Triumph. I hope I'm wrong cause that would be nice and a hell of a gun. Its hard to buy or own any other inlines once you have your hands on a Triumph.
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Old 08-06-2011 | 12:54 PM
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Ive said for a long time...An improved Vision would be a great gun. No exposed hammer and a common CF safety system. It just needed a few refinements to be a top shelf break action.
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Old 08-06-2011 | 01:06 PM
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Ive said for a long time...An improved Vision would be a great gun. No exposed hammer and a common CF safety system. It just needed a few refinements to be a top shelf break action.
What you're talking about GM, is my Lyman Mustang. No exposed hammer, top lever break open, sliding safety on top of the tang, all steel action.



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Old 08-06-2011 | 01:12 PM
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I handled a Mustang when they had one on closeout. I came close to buying it but its a 1-28. It has a few things i didn't like and they also had a bad track record if they needed repair. The one i handled had issues with the action release and the safety felt very loose.

Otherwise it was built like a tank. The Denali is also built like a tank but the reviews were much better. Pedersoli also has some of the highest/best rate of voluntary proof testing and imported barrel quality. They go far beyond what CIP requires in Europe for MLs. I really missed out when Cabelas blew them out for $129.

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Old 08-06-2011 | 01:17 PM
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I handled a Mustang when theThe Denali is also built like a tank but the reviews were much better. I really missed out when Cabelas blew them out for $129.
Especially since they are $500 or more at places like Dixie,if you even find one
 
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Old 08-06-2011 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 50calty
It will be hard pressed for someone to make a better inline then the Triumph. I hope I'm wrong cause that would be nice and a hell of a gun. Its hard to buy or own any other inlines once you have your hands on a Triumph.
Amen to that, there saboted bullet shooting machines lol.Ray
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Old 08-06-2011 | 01:26 PM
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I know, i saw that during my search and laughed. Its just too much for me to invest in a break action project unless it can handle smokeless.
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Old 08-06-2011 | 01:27 PM
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I handled a Mustang when they had one on closeout. I came close to buying it but its a 1-28. It has a few things i didn't like and they also had a bad track record if they needed repair. The one i handled had issues with the action release and the safety felt very loose.

Otherwise it was built like a tank. The Denali is also built like a tank but the reviews were much better. Pedersoli also has some of the highest/best rate of voluntary proof testing and imported barrel quality. They go far beyond what CIP requires in Europe for MLs. I really missed out when Cabelas blew them out for $129.
IMHO the vision is so darn ugly and looks like a shotgun.the Lyman isn't quite as ugly, but still has the shotgun lever to break the gun open.
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