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#11
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Yucca Valley,Ca
Grouse why the 1:20 again? that twist shoots big heavy lead excellent, but is so limited when it comes to saboted bullets.the 1:30 or even a 1:28 has a lot better selection of saboted bullets and the 1:30 shoots pure lead conicals in the 325-380 gr range lights out.i could see a 1:20 or 1:22 in limited runs. i just can't see a huge demand for them. Knight shot them selves in the foot once already with the 1:20 .45.cal.just curious and not trying to be negative.. Ray
#12
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If they do come out with a 45 in a 1:20 twist I'll take one for sure. One of the best twists for paper patch conicals.it would make a good companion for my 1:18 twist percussion.I think you could get it to shoot sabots also,if Dave manufactures one that is ballistically good for it. The failure of the 1:20 wasn't because of the twist but the lack of offering bullets to compliment that twist
#13
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Minnesota
I agree Chet. When Knight had the fast twist before they were too far ahead of the bullets that were availiable. These new brass bullets will be longer than lead bullets and should shoot great out of a 1 in 20 twist. And if the shooter wants to shoot conicals paper patched or not that would work good too.
#14
I agree with powders. I personally would like to see a cleaner burning powder that can be reliably used in a flintlock ignition. There are so many substitutes out there but none that are reliable in the flinter.
#15
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Aug 2006
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From: Rivesville, WV
If Knight brings out a 45 caliber with a 1in20 twist I have one question. Can I please send my Knight LRH(50 caliber) back to Knight and have it re-barreled with one of those 45 caliber barrels?? Please?? Pretty Please?? Pretty please with sugar on top??...............................
In a 45 caliber do you have any idea what the bore will be?? .450?? Or what?? Tom.
In a 45 caliber do you have any idea what the bore will be?? .450?? Or what?? Tom.
#16
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Mar 2009
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From: Saxonburg Pa
Everybody has opinions on this. My opinion is the sabots back then were not good enough. I think both MMP and Harvester can handle the twist. But again, that's why it takes lots of testing. I was told today a barrel is on the way. It could be a 1/24 50cal also.
#17
Boone & Crockett
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
The problem a gun company has with fast twist barrels is that only 5% of the muzzle loading population (like the guys here) have an understanding of how to make them shoot well. The average Joe is going to buy pre-packaged sets of bullets & sabots or Powerbelts and stick 150 grains of powder down their bore. When they get poor results they will be saying to everyone they know "that company's guns don't shoot well".
#18
The problem a gun company has with fast twist barrels is that only 5% of the muzzle loading population (like the guys here) have an understanding of how to make them shoot well. The average Joe is going to buy pre-packaged sets of bullets & sabots or Powerbelts and stick 150 grains of powder down their bore. When they get poor results they will be saying to everyone they know "that company's guns don't shoot well".
#19
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Yucca Valley,Ca
I agree Chet. When Knight had the fast twist before they were too far ahead of the bullets that were availiable. These new brass bullets will be longer than lead bullets and should shoot great out of a 1 in 20 twist. And if the shooter wants to shoot conicals paper patched or not that would work good too.
Ray
#20
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Yucca Valley,Ca
The problem a gun company has with fast twist barrels is that only 5% of the muzzle loading population (like the guys here) have an understanding of how to make them shoot well. The average Joe is going to buy pre-packaged sets of bullets & sabots or Powerbelts and stick 150 grains of powder down their bore. When they get poor results they will be saying to everyone they know "that company's guns don't shoot well".


