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MountainDevil54 08-07-2011 04:06 PM

page 7 and be sure to read the writing ;)

mountaineer magic 08-07-2011 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by INRecordBookBuck (Post 3831566)
Not sure how we got from shills to CVA but, it seems some hate CVA more than shills... I personally, am amazed!

I fit that category

MountainDevil54 08-07-2011 04:11 PM

IN. thats the old not up to date manual. You need to look at the Optima/Wolf manual combo and scroll down to page 7.

EndeavorShooter 08-07-2011 04:16 PM

CVA recommends a minimum of 50 grains, by volume, of blackpowder or blackpowder
substitute in your .45 or .50 caliber muzzleloader. The maximum load in CVA breakaction
guns, and any other CVA in-line rifle designated as a “Magnum” is 150 grains
by volume. This maximum load is generally known as the “magnum” load and is best
suited for pelletized powder due to the more efficient burning characteristics of the
powder pellets. Magnum loads of loose powder may be shot but are not recommended
because of their inefficient and incomplete burning of the powder. Some bullet
designs depend on the thrust of the powder charge to expand, or obdurate, the bullet
inside the bore for best accuracy. Loads under 50 grains cannot be depended on to
do this. In many cases lighter bullets are more sensitive to this than heavier bullets
and often require heavy powder charges to produce the best accuracy. For those
who wish to shoot moderate powder charges of 90 to 120 grains the heavier bullets
generally give better results.

sorry wrong link.......doesn't say you can't use 150grains loose, just says it is not recommended.....correct link below

http://www.cva.com/pdfs/Optima-Wolf%...n%20Manual.pdf

EndeavorShooter 08-07-2011 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3831589)
IN. thats the old not up to date manual. You need to look at the Optima/Wolf manual combo and scroll down to page 7.


got it....i think you mean page 4.....page 7 is about sighting and mounting a scope

Gm54-120 08-07-2011 04:19 PM


Do not use saboted bullets weighing over 300 grains in your CVA rifle.

Do not use lead conical bullets weighing
over 400 grains in your CVA rifle.

ONLY USE BLACKPOWDER RATED AS
FFG” IN YOUR CVA BREAK ACTION RIFLE


Hmmm i still see restrictions i dont have with my others and they shoot fine in them. :D Hell a 400gr is just getting started with a 50cal conical. :p

MountainDevil54 08-07-2011 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by INRecordBookBuck (Post 3831597)
CVA recommends a minimum of 50 grains, by volume, of blackpowder or blackpowder
substitute in your .45 or .50 caliber muzzleloader. The maximum load in CVA breakaction
guns, and any other CVA in-line rifle designated as a “Magnum” is 150 grains
by volume. This maximum load is generally known as the “magnum” load and is best
suited for pelletized powder due to the more efficient burning characteristics of the
powder pellets. Magnum loads of loose powder may be shot but are not recommended
because of their inefficient and incomplete burning of the powder. Some bullet
designs depend on the thrust of the powder charge to expand, or obdurate, the bullet
inside the bore for best accuracy. Loads under 50 grains cannot be depended on to
do this. In many cases lighter bullets are more sensitive to this than heavier bullets
and often require heavy powder charges to produce the best accuracy. For those
who wish to shoot moderate powder charges of 90 to 120 grains the heavier bullets
generally give better results.

sorry wrong link.......doesn't say you can't use 150grains loose, just says it is not recommended.....correct link below

http://www.cva.com/pdfs/Optima-Wolf%...n%20Manual.pdf

Read the highlighted areas.

Not because of safety. BUT because of the poor ability to burn that amount of powder.

Muley Hunter 08-07-2011 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by INRecordBookBuck (Post 3831583)
All CVA Break-Action In-Lines are capable of handling a "magnum"
powder charge of up to 150-grains when using pelletized powder (typically
charges of loose powder exceeding 110 grains by volume will not fully burn
in the barrel). Such "magnum" loads should never be fired in other CVA In-
Lines that do not feature the one-piece Monoblock barrel design.


From a cva owners manual.....

Also does not list BH209 as a safe propellant for cva barrels....and states the max load for looase powder in 100gr. and only 150gr. loads in pellet form.....

http://www.cva.com/pdfs/CVA%20Optima...arr%20Book.pdf


That's not going to fly. CVA offers a breech plug for BH 209.

Gm54-120 08-07-2011 04:29 PM

I think i proved my point and you guys from HIS forum played right into my hands. Sooner or later you will figure it out. LOL

Muley Hunter 08-07-2011 04:57 PM

That's not going to work. We know you by now.

The turnip truck just went by, but I didn't fall off it.


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