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idahoron 04-26-2011 05:07 PM

I want my bullets to fully penetrate. I don't care what angle they hit at. I want to be able to take the shot I need to take. If you have a trophy buck or bull that is not broad side do you not shoot? Do you wait for the perfect shot every time? in those conditions that is when the guy shooting marginal bullets take the shot and lose the animal or it becomes a drawn out process of tracking and searching. I am in the power camp when it comes to Muzzleloaders. But I am very picky with accuracy. I demand sub 2" groups with peep sights at 100 yards. When you live in a state that outlaws sabots, scopes 209 primers, and pellets. You don't have as many options and you need to think old school.
Ron



Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 3802505)
Ron,

I'm not sure why you want a bullet that busts up the front shoulder and exits out the hind quarter?

That's all edible meat. I try to kill the game without spoiling any of the meat I want.

A 300 gr Barnes through the lungs is more than enough.

Big heavy clunkers = nope

Small fast bullets = nope

Middle of those = bang-flop


Muley Hunter 04-26-2011 05:15 PM

I live in Colorado Ron. In 60 years of hunting I haven't lost an animal. I'm careful with my shot placement. I don't just blast away, because I have a big bullet.

We have different styles with I assume similar results.

Peace.

cayugad 04-26-2011 06:10 PM

I actually have no experience with kills, using sabots. Now granted, they are accurate, and I believe an excellent hunting projectile. But I have a ton of experience with roundball and conical bullets. But to be fair, I have never take a shot over 80 yards. But I have used roundball and conical bullets to take a whole lot of deer. Now I never had the pleasure to hunt elk with a conical bullet but would have no fear doing so. Also I never hunted a hog although I killed of lot of them for butchering. But I intend to solve that issue this year.

All I can say is while speed is real important to many.. my shots here are close. And when I hit deer with soft lead, either roundball or conical... they go down. I have never shot a deer with a roundball or conical bullet that I could not recover.

Grouse45 04-26-2011 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 3802798)
And when I hit deer with soft lead, either roundball or conical... they go down. I have never shot a deer with a roundball or conical bullet that I could not recover.

I can tell you one thing for sure, not all saboted bullets will give the results you are getting.:wink:

Muley Hunter 04-26-2011 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 3802809)
I can tell you one thing for sure, not all saboted bullets will give the results you are getting.:wink:

Real men don't wrap their bullets in plastic. :p

Grouse45 04-26-2011 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 3802814)
Real men don't wrap their bullets in plastic. :p

:cool2: At least i admit it.:patriot:

Semisane 04-26-2011 07:37 PM


Real men don't wrap their bullets in plastic. :p
Dang Muley! I shoot patched balls about half the time, and sabots the other half. I guess I'm only half of a real man. :s2:

I wonder what the other half is??? Unreal man? Imaginary man? Mythical man? (I know I'm a man of some sort, `cause I just checked to make sure.) :s12:

builder459 04-26-2011 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 3802837)
Dang Muley! I shoot patched balls about half the time, and sabots the other half. I guess I'm only half of a real man. :s2:

I wonder what the other half is??? Unreal man? Imaginary man? Mythical man? (I know I'm a man of some sort, `cause I just checked to make sure.) :s12:

Lol, i am glad i wasn't drinking coffee this time SEMI!!! Ray

Blackelk 04-28-2011 02:53 AM

Real Neanderthals like myself make their own bullets. HEHE

txhunter58 04-28-2011 03:59 AM

Size matters! Big slow bullets kill just as dead as small fast ones. I drive a ford............


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