Gm54-120

Look at the part number DL means its an Elite. All Elite 45s are a 1-30 unless there are some super rare prototypes

The first 6 means blue
The middle 5 means 45cal
The last 6 means 26" barrel
C is for composite stock

And HEAD is correct, the MK85s has about the best trigger you will ever see on a ML. Factory set at a crisp 2.5lbs and its a TRUE Timney.

That is the same guy i bought my Original 45 SS from and it was NIB with everything.

builder459

my understand is they made a .45 cal super disc 1:20 and almost ruined them.since it wouldn't shoot worth a dam, with the exception of a few limited bullets.thought i read they ended up replacing most of the barrels with a faster twist. Ray

Gm54-120

No what ruined the 1-20 was hyping a 155gr bullet at 2500fps in the 1-20. A fast twist is just fine with 180gr and up. 200gr+ bullets shoot really sweet with that twist. Plus 45cal sabots are much better now. Numerous compaines jumped on that wagon..not just Knight. Traditions made fast twist 45s almost until they dropped the 45. MDM used a 1-20 too and White.

SML 45 guys use 1-22 or even as fast as 1-18 twist commonly shooting 200gr bullets over 2600fps. Mine is going to be a 1-22 but i want a 1-24 custom. I just dont want to pay the extra $150 to get it.

a1smokepole

I have one of the old school 45 cal super disc 1-20 twist and love it # 0532 put lehigh breech plug in it and newer bolt I shot lehigh 40 cal 200gr doa bullet and shots good haveat shot a deer with bullet yet

Gm54-120

Yep they are one of the best Lehigh 200gr shooters. My Elite 1-30 prefers the 185gr DOA but the 200gr isn't terrible. It shoots a regular 40-200gr lead/copper fine. Ive shot upto a 260gr in a sabot within hunting group standards. The Lehigh 200gr is long. Another thing a 1-20 can shoot with some load work is a 180gr-200 .35x bullet in a PR 45x357 orange sabot.

builder459

I think knights problem with the 1:20 is it just doesn't shoot a big variety of different bullet weights well.White wanted the 1:20 since it shot his favorite big lead conicals so darn well.just like the 1:24 does in the .50. he did his homework, the M/L world went the other direction lol.anyway i want a 1:30 !!!!! Ray

a1smokepole

I but all prs in 40 cal and put them in mmp tan and harvester LB sabots and they dont shot the bad for paper shooting

a1smokepole

oh and the barnes bullets 185gr 195gr shot ok but not for hunting they will pencil throw but ok for paper shooting

flounder33

For those interested here is a link to a .45 wolverine that sold about a month ago on gunbroker: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=216568931

builder459

thank you Flounder. i will find one in time. i need to sell the Triumph anyway have i have the .50 wolverine to shoot big lead from. i have the peep mounted on it now also.thanks again Ray