Met a famous LEGEND today at the shooting range!
03-06-2011 | 04:19 PM
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Met a famous LEGEND today at the shooting range!
While cleaning my Optima i was finally able to get a good pic of the crud ring that Pyrodex, Black powder, Triple 7 and the American Pioneer powders produce when using a primer thats to hot. This isnt bad, normally 1 to 2" of barrel is nothing but a hard crust that makes the shooter swab between shots in order to get the next load down. After 13 shots total, 8 with american pioneer and 5 with pyrodex pellets, i ran one patch down the bore with muzzle foam and snapped this pic. This is the infamous crud ring causes by hot powders and they get REALLY nasty with hot primers and sugar based powders like T7 and American pioneer.
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03-06-2011 | 05:38 PM
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Ray, It was with a combo of American pioneer 2f and pyrodex pellets. The pyrodex pellets really get nasty with the W209 primers.
03-06-2011 | 05:42 PM
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Wow, I was under the impression that UBC cured the Crud ring while using T7 also. 
American Pioneer?????????????????? Your suppose to get 5000 shots atleast before cleaning.
Must have been the Pyrodex.
American Pioneer?????????????????? Your suppose to get 5000 shots atleast before cleaning.
Must have been the Pyrodex.
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03-06-2011 | 05:57 PM
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Borecoat recuded the crud ring so you can get more than few shots down the bore. 13 shots today before the 14th round was impossible to get down, i had to use a smaller hammer and my unbreakable ramrod to push it back out the muzzle.
Ray, It was with a combo of American pioneer 2f and pyrodex pellets. The pyrodex pellets really get nasty with the W209 primers.
Ray, It was with a combo of American pioneer 2f and pyrodex pellets. The pyrodex pellets really get nasty with the W209 primers.
03-07-2011 | 05:36 AM
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Thats the reason i stopped using T7 and Remoil. I was lucky to off a second shot. Ive been using BH209 all last year and the MX products so i will give T7 a try again. Im curious to see if the combination of JB, range time and the MX conditioner will improve my previous results. 6-9 shots without a bad ring will be fine with me.
If it has not made it better i will try the BoreCoat on my MK85 and see what happens. My old ThunderHawk is much better now with T7 and after years of PRBs, Maxis and BoreButter so maybe there is something to "conditioning" a bore and "break in" but im still skeptical. The old Thunderhawk did get 2 MX treatments after i sold it to the new owner and showed him the correct cleaning procedure. The last time out we/he was getting at least 5 T7 shots without swabbing and groups were "ok".
That reminds me, all new Knight barrels have the BoreCoat and i bought a newer LRH barreled action. The bore is super shiny, i wonder if it had the coating because it felt really good for a "out of the box" barrel without using any JBs.
If it has not made it better i will try the BoreCoat on my MK85 and see what happens. My old ThunderHawk is much better now with T7 and after years of PRBs, Maxis and BoreButter so maybe there is something to "conditioning" a bore and "break in" but im still skeptical. The old Thunderhawk did get 2 MX treatments after i sold it to the new owner and showed him the correct cleaning procedure. The last time out we/he was getting at least 5 T7 shots without swabbing and groups were "ok".
That reminds me, all new Knight barrels have the BoreCoat and i bought a newer LRH barreled action. The bore is super shiny, i wonder if it had the coating because it felt really good for a "out of the box" barrel without using any JBs.
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03-07-2011 | 05:43 PM
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Its in the new 2011 online catalog and it says all the models have the BoreCoating. Except maybe the TK2000 shotgun.
http://www.knightrifles.com/pdfs/201...atalog_Web.pdf
http://www.knightrifles.com/pdfs/201...atalog_Web.pdf
Want superior corrosion protection? Want to clean less? Those wishes now come
true with the help of DynaTek coatings, a unique corrosion-resistant ceramic-based
clear coat that now comes standard on all rifles. Knight continues to rise above the
competition by not only treating the barrel’s exterior but the barrel’s bore as well.
This means you can shoot more and clean less! With 50% fewer patches needed to
clean your bore, DynaTek not only cuts down your cleaning time but also increases
velocity, and decreases Group Size!
true with the help of DynaTek coatings, a unique corrosion-resistant ceramic-based
clear coat that now comes standard on all rifles. Knight continues to rise above the
competition by not only treating the barrel’s exterior but the barrel’s bore as well.
This means you can shoot more and clean less! With 50% fewer patches needed to
clean your bore, DynaTek not only cuts down your cleaning time but also increases
velocity, and decreases Group Size!
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