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Old 02-28-2011 | 06:06 PM
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Ron, another thing I find somewhat interesting is the fact that these are called a 460 but when you weighed them, they weighed 444.3 grains. I do not know why for sure but I guess I expected them to be closer to 460 grains. It really got me thinking... I was sure I had measured both Bull Shop 460 and No Excuse 460's and they were both right at 460.



The mold or the bullet realy looks like a conical that the Mountain Mold NEx would produce so when I first saw them I thought they were Bull Shops. Do you remember the color of the lube? NASA lube from Dan is Green. I can not remember what Dave's No Excuse lube looks like and right they are buried so I can not get to them.

Here is a set of pictures of the 460 Bull Shops...



I thought I had a picture of a recovered Bull Shop, recovered from the back bone area of the deer but I can not find it. It was mushroomed over a bit but had a lot of shank showing underneath.
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Old 02-28-2011 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sabotloader
Ron, another thing I find somewhat interesting is the fact that these are called a 460 but when you weighed them, they weighed 444.3 grains. I do not know why for sure but I guess I expected them to be closer to 460 grains. It really got me thinking... I was sure I had measured both Bull Shop 460 and No Excuse 460's and they were both right at 460.



The mold or the bullet realy looks like a conical that the Mountain Mold NEx would produce so when I first saw them I thought they were Bull Shops. Do you remember the color of the lube? NASA lube from Dan is Green. I can not remember what Dave's No Excuse lube looks like and right they are buried so I can not get to them.

Here is a set of pictures of the 460 Bull Shops...



I thought I had a picture of a recovered Bull Shop, recovered from the back bone area of the deer but I can not find it. It was mushroomed over a bit but had a lot of shank showing underneath.
Sabotloader, the NE .460 gr conicals i have came with a blue colored lube.. Ray
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Old 02-28-2011 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Semisane
Builder, Harry is a big ol` hairy chap who lives with the Hendersons. Didn't know he was a bullet caster though.

I should have expected this from you lmaoooooooo!
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Old 02-28-2011 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ronlaughlin
harry mailed me the bullet; he requested i give them a test. I believe he make them. Don't know about pureness of lead, but they were easy to load; they didn't require an overly amount of force to conform to the rifling in my rifle He suggested the bullet here......

http://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/ph...ic.php?t=19448
Thanks for clearing the Harry issue up Ron lol.
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Old 02-28-2011 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by builder459
Sabotloader, the NE .460 gr conicals i have came with a blue colored lube.. Ray
Thanks... that answers that...

I still think they look like one of the two, Hopefully Harry will come on and let us know....

I remember the Henderson's!
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Old 02-28-2011 | 06:30 PM
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[QUOTE=ronlaughlin;3780079]Who is the Henderson's?!?[/QUOTE The hendersons took in Harry
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Old 02-28-2011 | 06:34 PM
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i shot coreys wheel weight bullets into wet news paper at 100 yards and they had more mushroom. Its just very interesting that they wouldnt mushroom better than they did.
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Old 02-28-2011 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sabotloader
..........................Do you remember the color of the lube?........................
The lube is still in the grooves of both bullet.
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Old 02-28-2011 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ronlaughlin
The lube is still in the grooves of both bullet.
I can not really see a color... is there a color? or is it an opaque color?
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Old 02-28-2011 | 07:45 PM
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If you shoot them into something solid, they will flatten. This was shot into poplar wood. I have to agree with Sabotloader.. if they hit water, seeing the nose roll over did not surprise me at all. But I would bet if they hit say a shoulder blade or heavy bone structure, they would flatten just fine.

Also the No Excuse 460 and the Bull Shop both weigh 460 grains. I wonder if the ones in this test might not have been pure lead.
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