Ron, another thing I find somewhat interesting is the fact that these are called a 460 but when you weighed them, they weighed 444.3 grains. I do not know why for sure but I guess I expected them to be closer to 460 grains. It really got me thinking... I was sure I had measured both Bull Shop 460 and No Excuse 460's and they were both right at 460.



The mold or the bullet realy looks like a conical that the Mountain Mold NEx would produce so when I first saw them I thought they were Bull Shops. Do you remember the color of the lube? NASA lube from Dan is Green. I can not remember what Dave's No Excuse lube looks like and right they are buried so I can not get to them.

Here is a set of pictures of the 460 Bull Shops...



I thought I had a picture of a recovered Bull Shop, recovered from the back bone area of the deer but I can not find it. It was mushroomed over a bit but had a lot of shank showing underneath.