Anybody shooting these if so how do you like them.Everywhere I look im reading good things on them. Im gonna be working up a new load,a 200yd load as soon as it gets warm out.Im also switching powder,santa brought me some blackhorn 209 powder,I've picked up a pack of 250gr tc shockwave bonded core bullets with the super glide sabots.. and a pack of 250gr tc shockwave controlled expansion bullets with the mag express sabots.Gonna see which shoots the best,any experience with either of those bullets? I think i'll get a pack of barnes also and see how they shoot.

brushbustin
The answers to some of the questions you present are facts others are opinions.
I use Shock Waves for long range target and also for hunting spots where I expect long shots.
The best long range hunting bullet is the 50/40 200gr Shock Wave and this is backed up by a combination of flatness of trajectory caused by a combination of a good BC and SD and the velocity that is obtainable with a reasonable powder load. And the fact they do a good job on terminal ballistics.
The standard 250 is a very accurate bullet and I use the for target and
'0" ing for hunting, I no longer use them for hunting as they tend to break up and not leave a good exit hole which can be a necessity for a good blood trail, I recommend the bonded Shock Wave which does hold together and shoots the same POI.
There are some people using the 300gr for a 200 yd bullet and doing well with them, They do have a good BC and SD but their muzzle velocity is down when compared to the 200gr 50 /40 but when I have the opportunity to hunt elk or moose or big bear I switch to them. My normal opportunities only include deer bear and boar and a drawing for elk.

I've been shooting the Hornady FPB and while I love it,and it sure does its job,350grs seems a little heavy for 200yd shooting wtih a muzzleloader,and plus I don't think I was getting a good gas seal on the first shot..My CVA will group the FPB 1.5groups all day long at 100yds no problem,but when you back up to 150yds, it gets a little odd.The first shot wtih a clean barrel,will hit about 15inches low,then the next shot with a dirty barrel will only hit about 7 or 8 inches low..It does this everytime,which leads me to think that the bullet has a more loose fit in the clean barrel and not getting a good gas seal and then with the fouled barrel its gonna be tighter fit so it gets a better gas seal.All this is with 100grs of powder..

Lee makes a good argument for both the lighter and heavier bullets out to 200 yds,where i live longer shots are the norm and i am on the fence. as to which way to go IE lighter flatter 200 gr and the heavier slower 300 gr bullets.everything i read on the web seems to point to the quality, heavier, high BC 300 gr bullets for long range use regardless of brand. this coming from guides and famous outfitters who hunt for a living.that being said i take everything Lee says to heart and i am going to experiment with the lighter 50x40 bullets also. Barnes bullets are a excellent choice,the only one i have read any bad reviews on are the spitfire MZ and it's occasionally not opening at close range,due to it's having a smaller hollow point.the 290 gr barnes would be a great choice if you choose to go with a heavier bullet and it has a excellent BC.lighter bullets 50x40 i would go with the ones that Lee suggested since he has taken a lot of game animals with them. choices,choices,choices lol Ray

The 250gr TC bonded shockwaves shot very good out of my Pro Hunter using Harvester black crushed ribbed sabots and 115gr of BH 209, Win primers. I am now shooting the 250gr Barnes TMZ with the yellow Harnester Crushed Ribbed sabot and 105gr of BH 209, Win primers and they shoot great out of my PH too.