OK.There's a big difference between 240 and 370 grains.

Look I never Bashed MD, all I asked him if he got all his MLers from CVA on loan or did he pay for them. He posted a Thread asking us to show all our MLer's and he showed us all his CVA's. If they wer'nt his to show I just wanted to know. I bought and paid for all My CVA's and Im not in the least bit jealous that he get's Free stuff, I have more stuff than I need, believe me. And I actually sold MD some Powerbelts last year for a good price.
As for the Freedome of Speach thing it was'nt twords me, it was twords ALL Members of the Forum. I said right or wrong People have the right to say whatever they want. I have nothing Personal against MD, he shoots CVA's and so do I. But I dont shoot Powerbelts as I know how they are, yet I never Bashed anyone for using them. But I will put My 2Cents in if I feel a Product is Hurting our Sport or does'nt preform as to do a Ethical Job on Harvesting Animal's, that's not Bashing a Product is telling it like it is.
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i noticed that earlier but my net has been acting up. Breechplug has never bashed me and i understand what he was asking before. Just an easy mix up guys.

Just cool down guys, when things heat up you just have to remember that its the internet, theres a lot of smack talk online and you just have to grow thicker skin and learn how to deal with it. Ive certainly had my share of practice on here over the years.

New slogan for Powerbelt Bullets - Powerbelts! So good everyone fights over them online!

I dont take anything for FREE, I work Hard for all I have and by no means am I Jealous about anyone getting FREE Stuff. I've had a Few Members on here offer to give me a few things for FREE, I did'nt accept them not because I was ungreatful, but because if I can get them on My Own I will and feel better inside knowing that I got them on My Own.
The Reason our Country is in the Shape it's in now is Because EVERYONE WANT'S FREE STUFF. If someone has something I need I'll glady pay for it If I cant get it on My Own. And remember Nothing's FREE, someone has to pay for it.
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Now That's Freekin FUNNY! (The Powerbelt Slogan)
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Well said Semi and you too flounder! What we all shoud do is explain the benefits of loads that are not Magnum and why Magnum Loads are NOT Needed. Newcommers think that if they shoot the (Maximum) Load then that's better, heck they bought a Magnum MLer why should'nt it preform best with 150gr's of Powder, right? WRONG!
The Manufactures have a Market for magnum MLers and they use it to make money, yet they do not tell you that you'd be way better off shooting 90-100+gr's of Powder than 150 or they'd lose money.
Heck even I fell victum to the Magnum Load and used it for years. I suffered accuracy and a Sore Arm but I still took Deer. Then I Nancy'd Up and started shooting 100gr's+- and boy was I surprised that not only could I still shoot as far but my groups were better, the Deer were just as Dead and My Shoulder did'nt Hurt Anymore.
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Be careful there Pluckit! You started this thread and this post comes awfully close to bashing! LOL

And Rogo cetainly gets into PERSONAL bashing about people whose motivations he really knows nothing of. So he certainly didn't hear what you were saying.

Bottom line is that your opening statement has been said on EVERY website I have visited through the years. The facelessness of the internet allows people to blow off steam in heated exchanges more than if we were sitting around the campfire.

I personally believe that MD would not knowingly tell a lie. I think he really believes everything he says. I probably agree with most of his opinions, but there are quite a few areas we differ. And without looking very far you will find out that he has done his share of brand/product bashing. I can dig up several threads where he pretty much bashes Hornady FPB bullets after literally shooting a handful (4 or 5 I think) from one gun. On the other hand I have shot litterally hundreds in multiple guns and have two elk taken with them. He has on more than one occasion bashed maxiballs, yet you love them for good reason. Just two examples, there are more if you look. And he gives his opinions as strong as any one out there.

And I am sure you can find threads where I seem to bash this or that product. However, I try NEVER to attack a person, just their beliefs or ideas.

To be honest, I think I would enjoy forums less if there was never any ruckus kicked up. Seems to me, I tend to learn the most when opposing views are expressed in a heated fashion, because it makes me really think.

And don't worry about MD, he has shown he can certainly take it and keep coming back. My advice is if you don't want to see controversy, you should avoid his posts because he does seem to attract more than his share. And that is not just on this website, but every forum he is on. And believe me, it has nothing to do with jealously. He can take it and he can dish it out. And I suspect, at least a little, he thrives on it.

Being completely new to ML (have not fired a shot and waiting to get my Hawken back from the gunsmith this weekend), I have found this forum very informative and interesting. I have also noticed a lot of "badmouthing" for lack of a better term.

I find the comments that people on here are trying to sell ML and ML equipment as being negative or bad very interesting. Of course they are. That's how some of the posters make a living. And that's why you can use this site and badmouth people (if you choose) - the advertising that pays for it. Things aren't free in life.

My personal thought and advice would be, if you figure out someone sells certain equipment and therefore favors that particular type of equipment, take what he or she says about it with a grain of salt. Consider that before you believe what they say or purchase something from them. Look around and consider other viewpoints before you make whatever decision you're trying to make. As long as someone isn't deliberately misleading you or trying to cheat you, there's really no reason to get so excited. It's up to everyone how they want to react, but I've found staying calm and simply disagreeing with someone is lot more productive and easier on you than getting all worked up and firing off heated exchanges.

minnesotadeer
what you say makes perfect sense.Thank You for saying it.