one step at a time is right, you guys on the other hand are just trashing 100%. When it comes to powerbelts, just let those who shoots them help the person in need. I doubt there are many on here who have shot as many as i have. I know t he bullets like the back of my girl friends head.

As usual when a topic goes this way, i typically PM the original poster to let him know that if he has any questions or needs help, to just pm me and i'll do what i can to help. So i guess its that time LOL

These are the exact reasons why i say what i do to MD..jealousy has nothing to do with this. it's all about the newcomers and getting them started in the right direction.this is not about MD and feeding his misguided ego.. it's apparent he could care less about anything except the products he spends so much time endorsing. and yes he is bringing this upon himself.

Kind of like the fly that keeps buzzing you until you take a swat at it.

I really didn't want to jump into this one Pluckit. But you posed a fair question which deserves an answer.

As an experienced round ball shooter, here's how I see it. Most guys shooting patched balls are using something around 75/85 grains of powder in .50's or 85/95 grains in 54's, and generally limit their shots to 100 yards. Most would also agree that a non-hollow point Power Belt with similar powder charges will be about as effective as a ball.

I've never shot a Power Belt in my life, but have read numerous reports by experienced shooters that indicate (1) Power Belts are often incredibly accurate, and (2) there's a good chance of bullet failure in deer when they are driven hard.

The problem arises when a new shooter matches his new "three pellet/magnum" gun with a light weight Power Belt, shoots great groups at the range, and then goes hunting. He may or may not get good results. But the likelyhood of bad results seem to be higher than with most other bullets (even patched balls). I suspect that's because ball shooters are shooting lighter loads, or are more experienced in placing their shots, or pick their shots more carefully, or some combination of those factors.

Very good points Semi. Also the experienced shooters know that "magnum" loads are not really necessary at any range.

Ive been shooting CVA since i was 14 and started using powerbelts in 2002 when i lost 2 deer due to tc maxiballs failing to do the job.

What do you shoot? I got to know so i can say that you are endorsing them

On the other hand, No body say anything about what powder, primers, guns, bullets or what kind of toilet paper you use!

Post that PM please! i am betting it will say something like.. don't listen to those other people who are trying to talk you into another product as far as the downside to PB's i have come up with a insert that helps this bullet perform like a deep curl? am i on the right track here MD? again MD your arguments hold no water and you cry that your being singled out and picked on.instead of replying to the questions that were presented to you..that's the easy way out..that's the way dishonest individuals react when confronted..

My turn!That's incredible,I've shot at least a dozen deer with Maxiballs and not one of them survived.90 grains ff Goex and a 370 grain Maxiball is an awsome load out of a 1 in 48 inch twist Hawkins.What in the world were you doing with those Maxiballs?I am LMAO.

Ah hell i had a nice type up but decided why bother? A person such as you who is 51 years old and still gets into fist fights over someone saying his new rifle is more accurate than his other one.... That says a lot.

Stay tuned for some patched round ball shooting with good ol american pioneer powder!

Oh yeah thats another one i took hell on too! American Pioneer LMAO.

CVA Blazer .45 240? grain TC MAXI ball , 70gr pyrodex P, a 35 yard shot though the high shoulders, deer ran a 1/4 mile before laying down. Next shot at oh hell, maybe 60 yards right behind the shoulder, deer got up and ran another 1/2 mile before going down!

No exits at all, in fact i never recovered the bullets in the animal while gutting.

After that Powerbelt bullets were available at the local stores and used them since. Only been using Thors the past 2 years.