My prediction for Knight rifles.
#21
I hope they are pushing growth, and NOT promoting slow sellers.
I may get a thumbhole for my Bighorn. The second safety digs into the web of my hand when still hunting. Is there any fitting needed to get maximum accuracy, or is it strictly a drop-in?
I may get a thumbhole for my Bighorn. The second safety digs into the web of my hand when still hunting. Is there any fitting needed to get maximum accuracy, or is it strictly a drop-in?
Last edited by Palehorse; 12-06-2011 at 08:50 AM.
#22
Nontypical Buck
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My guess would be that they are trying to find a way to get the 52 to sell.
First of all I am not saying the 52 is a bad gun or a bad caliber. I am sure that they shoot just great but I have not been shown that a 52 would kill anything any deader than a 50 or a 54 or a 45 for that matter.
I personally do not like the idea of buying a caliber that is proprietary to any one company. It just limits your bullet choices and makes them more expensive. I think the Knight is a great gun, I just don't buy into the 52 caliber thinking.
First of all I am not saying the 52 is a bad gun or a bad caliber. I am sure that they shoot just great but I have not been shown that a 52 would kill anything any deader than a 50 or a 54 or a 45 for that matter.
I personally do not like the idea of buying a caliber that is proprietary to any one company. It just limits your bullet choices and makes them more expensive. I think the Knight is a great gun, I just don't buy into the 52 caliber thinking.
#25
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I guess I feel that there are some points that are being missed.
First to address the 52 caliber, it could have an advantage if they make the right moves. There are now a decent range of 50 caliber bullet available and a 50 caliber bullet has several obvious advantage over a 45 especially for game that is elk sized or bigger and it also has the same advantage that a 458 in a 50 caliber has in just the right amount of sabot thickness for max accuracy. The problem is not a decent range of sabots available.
The problem that Knight had before is the wide variety of guns they tried to make and sell ahead that were not well enough tested to get the little bugs out before releasing them to the public, the warranty expenses are outrages when this mistake is made.All the problems must be found before marketing or that item will run at a loss.
They also have an other problem they tried to correct to late and released to soon; some of us think bolt actions and muzzle loading are a poor combination, the block hammer action resembles a bolt but is not one when they went from that to close breach actions they should not add a bolt that takes up a lot of the length of the gun but adds no strength even bolt fans like myself who have all bolt cartridge guns can see that all thats added to a muzzle loader is length and weight, a single good bolt for the hard core and a good falling block and a good break action is the basic variety needed.
They have put themselves at an other disadvantage by shopping parts widely that makes it very difficulty to maintain a decent quality control.
First to address the 52 caliber, it could have an advantage if they make the right moves. There are now a decent range of 50 caliber bullet available and a 50 caliber bullet has several obvious advantage over a 45 especially for game that is elk sized or bigger and it also has the same advantage that a 458 in a 50 caliber has in just the right amount of sabot thickness for max accuracy. The problem is not a decent range of sabots available.
The problem that Knight had before is the wide variety of guns they tried to make and sell ahead that were not well enough tested to get the little bugs out before releasing them to the public, the warranty expenses are outrages when this mistake is made.All the problems must be found before marketing or that item will run at a loss.
They also have an other problem they tried to correct to late and released to soon; some of us think bolt actions and muzzle loading are a poor combination, the block hammer action resembles a bolt but is not one when they went from that to close breach actions they should not add a bolt that takes up a lot of the length of the gun but adds no strength even bolt fans like myself who have all bolt cartridge guns can see that all thats added to a muzzle loader is length and weight, a single good bolt for the hard core and a good falling block and a good break action is the basic variety needed.
They have put themselves at an other disadvantage by shopping parts widely that makes it very difficulty to maintain a decent quality control.
Last edited by lemoyne; 12-06-2011 at 01:01 PM.
#26
Nontypical Buck
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From: Yucca Valley,Ca
IMHO Knight needs to drop the .52 cal and concentrate on the .45. the .52 cal is dying, just like the .54 has. they already make a fine plunger style rifle that can be used by the Northwest shooters and it is accurate with conicals as well as saboted bullets. they don't need anymore bolt rifles, since they already produce 3 different bolt models.all the rifles they presently sell should be offered with synthetic stocks and blued barrels. this would make there rifles more affordable to more people without affecting quality,since those barrels would still be produced by GMB and there synthetic stocks have always been top shelf IMHO.another area they need to concentrate on is the accuracy of the GMB barreled rifles with conical bullets.they definitely need to produce a new and fresh quality break action rifle and forget about failures such as the( butt ugly) vision and others they brought to the market in the past.hell if T/C can sell the expensive endeavor, with it's hit or miss accuracy and hinge pin problems, knight should be able to find a nitch with a break action rifle also.
Last edited by builder459; 12-06-2011 at 06:42 PM.
#28
For Knight to be successful, they need to continue to make a quality product, made in the U.S.A. without teething problems or quality control issues. IMO they also need to produce an affordable, break-action .50 cal muzzy in the $250 range to compete with CVA, Traditions and T/C. I hope they succeed, but so far it looks like they are still having some problems...
#29
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They will be made here in the states from everything that I have heard. Several different American companies will be involved in the process.
And I thought I was the only one that had these thoughts... Over the years shooting trap i have seen this a lot in even the most expensive shot guns. But, If you are only using it once in while for hunting and do very little shooting it might never be a problem...
They will be made here in the states from everything that I have heard. Several different American companies will be involved in the process.
And I thought I was the only one that had these thoughts... Over the years shooting trap i have seen this a lot in even the most expensive shot guns. But, If you are only using it once in while for hunting and do very little shooting it might never be a problem...


