That's the model I really like. I really like that stock as well as the stainless barrel. Had they had that one instead of the one with the thumb hole stock it's what I would have gotten. You don't want to sell yours do you?

Please do listen to me. The remington is DONE, its cheaply made. Why would you pay $200-250 for a rifle when they were giving them away for $100 just 5-6 months back

Shop smart is all im sayin. If you like the remingtons trigger and their customer service and the price of a no longer in production muzzleloader, Then by all means, Buy away!!!

Kind of how I feel too. I like mine like I said and it shoots good but it does seem cheaply made. Stuff like the crappy bluing. The trigger isn't the best either but it works fine especially for a muzzle loader. That's why I'm saying I'm just not sure that you can't find something better for $250 or so.

MD have you any first hand knowledge of the remingtons?
Ever shot one? Just wondering.....

I got my blued/camo for like $125. Downsides: The triggers are crap; the rough blued finish needs some extra attention to keep it from rusting; the torch cam gets crudded up when shooting and has to be wiped off; the ramrod isn't long enough for decent field cleaning. Upsides: the gun can be made to shoot pretty darn good; it's not too expensive; they break down easily and completely.

For $200, I'd rather up the price a bit and get something else. Mine was definitely worth $125, but the overall quality and function doesn't hold up to my T/C Omega

The trigger on mine is excellent, the cam locks up good and snug, there is no blow back, and accuracy wise I have no complaints. Its topped with a Nikon Omega and come warmer weather I want to try to see if I can shoot 200 yards with it. I just checked mine since it has been sitting for a few months, and there is no rust anywhere. And I do not see mine as cheaply made.

As for MD's opinion on Remington Rifles.. well all it is would be his opinion. This is the first Remington muzzleloader I have ever owned. So all I base my opinion on it is from my personal experience shooting and owning it.

Fondled a few at bass pro in denver. The triggers were gritty as heck with a long of travel, rough bluing, Almost like it was one of those blue jobs thats done with the bluing touch up pen. Did shoulder nice though. Thats about it.

XLT and the Yukon are another 2 that never impressed me.

I agree, for $200-$250 i'd go with an omega or an optima over the rem.

Just bein honest is all.

Jaybez - I think its time you quit picking on MD. This guy asked for opinions and MD gave him his. Right or wrong, is no need to take a cheap shot at someone for voicing their opinion.
As for the Genesis - I had one, and I also had a CVA Optima Pro. But being more of a traditional ML shooter, I sold them. Both of them shot very well. But the Genesis did seem 'clunkier' and more cheaply made than the Optima. But then again, Remington didn't make it - Traditions did. If I were to have a pick of either one today, I would take the Optima. I think Cayugad has the idea. Wait to check out the new T/C. Then you will have another option.

Yeah I forgot to mention right around the muzzle of the barrel I just had a little surface rust. Barely any and I'm not sure you can even see it now that I cleaned it but it seemed to be there. I've kept this thing clean and oil so I'm not sure how in the world it did that. The bluing just seems crappy to me.

bronko22000

Totally disagree.... a lot of us get really tired of FG and his predictable posts. It is really just best ignore him and his posts and move on.