Im sick - I actually like APP
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Im sick - I actually like APP
Just as the topic says and you all know, Im sick! This stuff is darn clean and super easy to clean up.
My first outing i was pretty worried and kind of pissed off LOL.
My second outing i pushed the 245gr HP Powerbelt onto the powder very firmly and allowed the barrel to cool down a few minutes between shots. I also used the new Remington STS primers. I honestly think i pulled shot #2!! It had to have been a flinch or a trigger jerk.
The holes marked with a marker were my first outing and you can see how much it sucked. Those shots, i seated the projectile lightly on top of the powder and did not allow a cool down. These were also with the CCI Inline MZL primers.
My first outing i was pretty worried and kind of pissed off LOL.
My second outing i pushed the 245gr HP Powerbelt onto the powder very firmly and allowed the barrel to cool down a few minutes between shots. I also used the new Remington STS primers. I honestly think i pulled shot #2!! It had to have been a flinch or a trigger jerk.
The holes marked with a marker were my first outing and you can see how much it sucked. Those shots, i seated the projectile lightly on top of the powder and did not allow a cool down. These were also with the CCI Inline MZL primers.
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Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Gander the stuff will shoot and group good if you get all the moisture out of it and keep it out. Its the weakest powder made and it takes a lot more to get it to shoot well to. I used it for two years and the only way I could keep it grouping tight was to spread it out on a board next to the dehumidifier in the gun safe. It will work well but you have to decide if it is worth the trouble if you live where the humidity is always high like me. Lee
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Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wabash, IN
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+1 to what Lemoyne said.
APP, CleanShot, Shockey's Gold (it's all the same stuff) does shoot very cleanly - almost amazingly so. But it IS the weakest thing out their as far as 2fg powders go - taking 15gr more powder to equal a Pyro RS load and 25gr more to equal a 777 load for any given bullet. It is also extremely hygroscopic - it sucks moisture out of the air like a camel filling it's hump full of water. I've had it go bad on me literally overnight, even when kept under humidity-controlled conditions.
I reckon if you had a vacuum-sealing unit, you could vacuum-seal a fresh bottle in 1/4 pound baggies to keep it in useable condition for any time.
Just seems like a lot of hassle when a bottle of 777 can be good for years just as it is.
APP, CleanShot, Shockey's Gold (it's all the same stuff) does shoot very cleanly - almost amazingly so. But it IS the weakest thing out their as far as 2fg powders go - taking 15gr more powder to equal a Pyro RS load and 25gr more to equal a 777 load for any given bullet. It is also extremely hygroscopic - it sucks moisture out of the air like a camel filling it's hump full of water. I've had it go bad on me literally overnight, even when kept under humidity-controlled conditions.
I reckon if you had a vacuum-sealing unit, you could vacuum-seal a fresh bottle in 1/4 pound baggies to keep it in useable condition for any time.
Just seems like a lot of hassle when a bottle of 777 can be good for years just as it is.
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It is also extremely hygroscopic - it sucks moisture out of the air like a camel filling it's hump full of water.
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breech plug came out super easy, i actually broke it loose with using only my fingers on the tool. No blowby into the threads, only a skim of primer fouling on the frame. Super clean powder that again after 9 shots today, cleaned up with 1 patch and one more to mop up whatever little was left behind.
Heres the face of the plug.
Heres the face of the plug.