TC Northwest Explorer
12-16-2009, 08:12 PM
#1
Spike
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Idaho
Posts: 19
TC Northwest Explorer
Got the new Thompson Center Arms Northwest Explorer in the mail today.
I can't wait for the weather to clear up so I can go out and run a few hundred shots though it. It looks and feels great. I'd would have liked to have seen a stainless version of it.
Do any of you have any insight to the 1 in 48 twist barrel that TC puts out. It would save me a little time at the range. I would like to shoot conicals through it. I was thinking of trying the TC maxi!
Best Regards
Steve
www.muledeercountry.com
I can't wait for the weather to clear up so I can go out and run a few hundred shots though it. It looks and feels great. I'd would have liked to have seen a stainless version of it.Do any of you have any insight to the 1 in 48 twist barrel that TC puts out. It would save me a little time at the range. I would like to shoot conicals through it. I was thinking of trying the TC maxi!
Best Regards
Steve
www.muledeercountry.com
Last edited by Antler Junkie; 12-16-2009 at 08:29 PM.
12-16-2009, 08:32 PM
#3
Spike
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Idaho
Posts: 19
A picture..... I can't even figure out how to put up a profile picture.
I will get a couple up this weekend for you (if I can figure it out). Thanks for pointing out the correct twist.
Best Regards
Steve
www.muledeercountry.com
Here is some info on it. Click and it will download. Best I could do for now!
I will get a couple up this weekend for you (if I can figure it out). Thanks for pointing out the correct twist.
Best Regards
Steve
www.muledeercountry.com
Here is some info on it. Click and it will download. Best I could do for now!
Last edited by Antler Junkie; 12-16-2009 at 08:45 PM.
Just roll some PRBs or conicals down the bbl, surely you'll be quick to find a good load. Get you some mag caps, some RS and hit the range!
12-17-2009, 08:03 AM
#7
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Posts: 986
Maybe they have figured out why the QLA does not work for some conicals and modified it for this rifle (probably not a reasonable assumption). Most companies that large seem to be so set on the idea that everything they do is perfect they would not accept the idea that their QLA is not as good as other recessed muzzle loading assist barrels that will shoot conicals reliably. The CVA barrels with recessed muzzles seem to do just fine. I think some of the Traditions also have easy load muzzles and also shoot conicals fine. Most do not have the deep recess part that T/C seems to put on their rifles. My CVA is shorter in the recessed part than the Omega that I have. My theory is that due to the depth of the recess when a conical exits the barrel it is still within the recessed part when the gasses start escaping around the bullet. That can cause the bullet to be unstable before it finally leave the barrel. Shorter section will not allow that to happen. Now when the same deep recess is used with a sabot the sabot keeps the gas from escaping around the bullet until after the bullet has exited the barrel and now is stable and in free flight. (so much for an Engineers theory).
12-17-2009, 08:14 AM
#8
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,693
I think you-all need to remember that they have had the QLA on their recent Hawkens for years also. And you really do not hear many people complining about Hawkens. I have an Older Omega with the QLA and it shoots Bull Shops just fine.
In fact I am pretty sure that Bull Shop Dan has a 54 TC Hawken with a QLA that he shoots in Alaska.
TC long ago said that there was a run of inline TC barrels that the QLA was not centered and suggested if you had one of those to send it in.
So anyway i do not understand the universal statement that the QLA does not work with conicals. Other rifles shooting conicals have some sort of the same feature by a different name and also seem to shoot conicals very well. I would like to think that TC learned from early mistakes...
Shoot! come to think of it I have never shot a conical from the Triumph - I really should give that a try - or has anyone out there already tried it.
Or does anyone have one a newer Hawken with the QLA?
In fact I am pretty sure that Bull Shop Dan has a 54 TC Hawken with a QLA that he shoots in Alaska.
TC long ago said that there was a run of inline TC barrels that the QLA was not centered and suggested if you had one of those to send it in.
So anyway i do not understand the universal statement that the QLA does not work with conicals. Other rifles shooting conicals have some sort of the same feature by a different name and also seem to shoot conicals very well. I would like to think that TC learned from early mistakes...
Shoot! come to think of it I have never shot a conical from the Triumph - I really should give that a try - or has anyone out there already tried it.
Or does anyone have one a newer Hawken with the QLA?
Last edited by sabotloader; 12-17-2009 at 08:20 AM.
12-17-2009, 08:17 AM
#9
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,693
MLKeith
That was exactly the problem - if the QLA is off-center which several were. If the QLA is centered then the gas escape is equal.
My theory is that due to the depth of the recess when a conical exits the barrel it is still within the recessed part when the gasses start escaping around the bullet. That can cause the bullet to be unstable before it finally leave the barrel.
12-17-2009, 08:26 AM
#10
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 21,193
My Black Diamond XR has a QLA and it is one fantastic conical shooter. I shoot the .503 No Excuses 460 grain out of it. And believe me, that thing is deadly with them. It would also be legal out west I believe because of the hammer striker design.
I just am not sure I am sold on this new rifle of T/C. Might as well use a Hawkins.
I just am not sure I am sold on this new rifle of T/C. Might as well use a Hawkins.
