Help....Help...Help Tradition Pusuit XLT 2 Extreme
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Spike
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If anybody shoots this gun please HELP! I been trying too site this gun in the last few days aint going so well...heres the scoop....
I started off shooting the 250g Hornady Speedloaders with 150g of tripple seven pellets.....Well they were real easy too load and were throwing all over the place at 100yds with a bench rest. So I thought the bullet was too sloppy and thought thats why it wasnt shooting good. So I bought a pack of Barnes T - EZ put one in and those were sloppy...took the package back....Finally called barnes and the tech support told me too go with the 250 g Barnes TMZ which are a couple thousanths bigger...well these packed in perfect nice in tight...get too the range start at 25 yds with a 150 g charge and 1" low dead center, 50 yds it's getting close, get too 100yds where I want too sight in at with the Nikon BDC scope and these bullets start throwing all over the place also. Start making small adjustments 2 or 3 clicks on the scope and still nothing. So I let my buddy shoot thats been shooting real good all day and he starts throwing them all over also. So my question is if you have this gun what bullet are you shooting??? or why are these bullets all over the place so much?? (Note I was swabbing inbetween shots simple green, alcohol, dry patch)
I started off shooting the 250g Hornady Speedloaders with 150g of tripple seven pellets.....Well they were real easy too load and were throwing all over the place at 100yds with a bench rest. So I thought the bullet was too sloppy and thought thats why it wasnt shooting good. So I bought a pack of Barnes T - EZ put one in and those were sloppy...took the package back....Finally called barnes and the tech support told me too go with the 250 g Barnes TMZ which are a couple thousanths bigger...well these packed in perfect nice in tight...get too the range start at 25 yds with a 150 g charge and 1" low dead center, 50 yds it's getting close, get too 100yds where I want too sight in at with the Nikon BDC scope and these bullets start throwing all over the place also. Start making small adjustments 2 or 3 clicks on the scope and still nothing. So I let my buddy shoot thats been shooting real good all day and he starts throwing them all over also. So my question is if you have this gun what bullet are you shooting??? or why are these bullets all over the place so much?? (Note I was swabbing inbetween shots simple green, alcohol, dry patch)
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Spike
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SEMISANE No I never tried 2 pellets since the Nikon Scope is set up for the 150g charge. ( so could be a option, just not use the dots)
oldsmellhound So if I was gonna shoot loose powder...the 3 tripple 7 pellets is equivalent too 120g loose? correct me if im wrong....
oldsmellhound So if I was gonna shoot loose powder...the 3 tripple 7 pellets is equivalent too 120g loose? correct me if im wrong....
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Nontypical Buck
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SEMISANE No I never tried 2 pellets since the Nikon Scope is set up for the 150g charge. ( so could be a option, just not use the dots)
oldsmellhound So if I was gonna shoot loose powder...the 3 tripple 7 pellets is equivalent too 120g loose? correct me if im wrong....
oldsmellhound So if I was gonna shoot loose powder...the 3 tripple 7 pellets is equivalent too 120g loose? correct me if im wrong....
Cut your charge to 2 pellets or 100gr loose and try again. If not, try a 300gr bullet as you can keep the charge up but velocity down, and sometimes the velocity is the issue.
Yes, 120-125gr loose is roughly equivalent to 3 pellets.
If it is hot out, let the gun cool at least 3min before reloading, heat softens the sabots and ruins accuracy.
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I agree with the rest of them. I would never even worry what a scope told me about my rifle's powder charge. Sight the rifle in, not the scope to the rifle.
Drop your load down to 2 pellets. And with them Barnes it should be deadly accurate. Very few rifles I own shoot best with a magnum or max powder charge in them. Most of them tune in with a charge much less then a max charge. That .. my rifle shoots 150 grains, is a gimmick to get you to buy it. Same as the scope.
With loose powder, start at 85 grains and work the load up. 85 grains is plenty of powder in my book. Be sure you swab the bore between shots. Keep everything as consistent as possible when you load and shoot.
I shoot a Remington Genesis with the stainless steel barrel. With Barnes 250 grain MZ Expanders, and two pyrodex pellets.. well I am just amazed at the rifle. Three shots at 62 yards last winter was one fat hole. I never shot a group like that in a long time. When I shot three pellets, the group opened up a lot.
Once you find the load the rifle likes, then worry about the dots in that scope. Maybe the first dot will only be 121 yards. So what! Its an amining point is all it is. And if the second dot is 179 yards.. well you have a second aiming point. Most game does not walk out in the field at exactly 150, 200, 250 & 300 yards anyway. I personally use a Nikon Omega, but without the aiming dots on my Genesis.
Drop your load down to 2 pellets. And with them Barnes it should be deadly accurate. Very few rifles I own shoot best with a magnum or max powder charge in them. Most of them tune in with a charge much less then a max charge. That .. my rifle shoots 150 grains, is a gimmick to get you to buy it. Same as the scope.
With loose powder, start at 85 grains and work the load up. 85 grains is plenty of powder in my book. Be sure you swab the bore between shots. Keep everything as consistent as possible when you load and shoot.
I shoot a Remington Genesis with the stainless steel barrel. With Barnes 250 grain MZ Expanders, and two pyrodex pellets.. well I am just amazed at the rifle. Three shots at 62 yards last winter was one fat hole. I never shot a group like that in a long time. When I shot three pellets, the group opened up a lot.
Once you find the load the rifle likes, then worry about the dots in that scope. Maybe the first dot will only be 121 yards. So what! Its an amining point is all it is. And if the second dot is 179 yards.. well you have a second aiming point. Most game does not walk out in the field at exactly 150, 200, 250 & 300 yards anyway. I personally use a Nikon Omega, but without the aiming dots on my Genesis.
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Spike
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2 pellets was the key,Im dead on now thanks guys for all the help. 5 inch group at a hundred, thata plenty good for me. Might go out one more time to fine tune it,but right now its ready to hunt. Now i just have to wait for iowa's early muzzleloader season to come, Thanks again guys



