I used a brush every cleaning with the inline I had, shooting sabots & conicals. Rarely do I use one with my sidelocks shooting prb... no lead or plastic touching the bore, and the lube keeps the fouling soft & easy to remove.

In any case, you're certainly not doing any damage to the barrel by using one.

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Here is my take on using brushes. My Pro Hunter and now my Accura have only seen BH209 powder since new. I was just patching the barrels with either Butche's Bore Shine or Hoppes (I think Hoppes works a bit better). But after reading Cayugad's experience with Montana X I put a brush to both of my "clean" inlines yesterday. I brushed-patched, brushed-patched until my arms almost fell off and could still get stuff out of those barrels.

I am going to try the Montana X bore conditioner but I will always brush my bores from now on! I always used a brush on my sidelock with a soap/water bath. I recently went to solvents on that gun also but continue to use brushes. I don't think it matters whether you use nylon or brass.

Do you guys actually get your bores clean without using brushes? I mean really clean? Just wondering!

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YES! remember a lot of what you are seeing after using a brass bore brush is a reaction of the the brass with the metals of the bore. Evening using JB's will turn your bore black as it reacts with the bore...

WET bore overnight will bring out stuff you can get rid of.wet soaking patch down bore, let sit overnight.

i do this with HOPPES,yes, stuff does come out you missed before.

Im probably gonna keep using one, I first use it to clean the inital fowling, about 10 swipes with the brush, then the solvents and then oil. The barrels always come spotless and shiny with no signs of damage, plus it speeds up the cleaning process. BP

i use old worn dish cleaning pad.i cut it into squares.

cayagug put me on to this idea.

i dont use bore brush much, those pads get everything real good.

I am having fun with my Ruger M77 in 30-06. Not a muzzleloader butmy problem relates tothesubject matter. I bought it in 1984 and fired less than 100 rounds through it since. I had it out the other day and the groups are getting progressivley worse. Upon closer inspection I have a severe copper fouling build up. I have always cleaned my rifles with Hoppes #9 which does not address copper fouling. I picked up some Hoppes Benchrest amd let it sit overnight and cleaned the next morning. I have repeated this process several times and still pulling out CU. I think I am going to get some Sweets or Butches Bore Shine to speed up the process.

soak a bore overnight with HOPPES 9 ,yes, stuff will come out next day.

i do this to everyone of my guns including my muzzleloader.

I use (Scotch-Brite) heavy duty dish cleaning pads on my breechplugs to remove fowling, they work great! Im sure they'd work on the inside of the barrel too without harming it. BP

Try some Remington 40X Bore Cleaner. That stuff has worked great for me.