TUK101

All that comes to mind when I read the "600gr" and 58cal is OUCH. It is all that I can do to tolerate the 50 cal and 54 cal front stuffers that I have been shooting. Of coarse things would be different if I didn't have several herniated discs and the two shoulder surgeries. Good luck to you man, I could only wish to be able to shoot one of those and not wince in the pain that it would cause me lol. [:@] Yeah, I am a bit envious.

Johnmorris

Monsur's in LaCrosse is a good gun shop. If you are going north don't miss the Leinenkugels Brewery hospitality center in Chippewa Falls they also have Brewery tours.

cayugad

visit the gun shop first.. then the brewery. I spent many a hour in the Leinenkugel's Brewery hospitality center. Real nice place to visit.

Gotbuck

Do you think an Enfield in 58 cal with a 1:48 twist would stablize that 600 gr bullet? If the 1:70 is great for roundball can a roundball weigh around 600 gr? About what gauge is a 58 anyway.

Sorry but I have never shot either of these bullets or calibers and know nothing about them.

Semisane

A .570 ball - the standard .58 caliber load - weighs 278 grains, and will kill anything you can find in North America. It's about 24 gauge.

Gauge/ Caliber Weight/gr.
Balls/lb.
8 .835 875
10 .776 700
12 .730 583
13 .710 538
14 .693 500
16 .663 438
20 .615 350
24 .579 292
28 .550 250

Gotbuck

This brewery is it for real or are you guys sending me to a strip joint? I will have my father-in-law along and he would just die at the sight.

cayugad

Chippewa Falls is known for Leinenkugel's Brewery a.k.a. Leaking Eagles Brewery. It really is a nice place. You can take a tour and then visit the gardens and sample if you like. We used to camp close the brewery in motor homes and then tour the brewery every year.

In my younger days, I toured breweries all over the world. Some of them (whenI lived in Copenhagen Denmark for a while)so often they started to kick me out. [&o] They got to know me.

If you want strip joints.. never mind. [&o]

Rootsy

TOTW may be attractive for your Hawken but if you are serious about building one of these, do it right and look up don Stith (http://www.donstith.com/muzzle_loading_rifles.html) or The Hawken Shop (build Hawken rifles from original patterns and tooling of the Hawken Bros.). May be a bit more pricy but you get what you pay for. Most original Hawken rifles actually had a tapered barrel vs a straight barrel.

Gotbuck

Thanksfor the info, they got some nice ones.

mountaineer magic

I have a 58 cal. Pedersoli. It will shoot those conicals. Pedersoli makes some really nice guns. They are expensive but they are top of the line. Many of their guns are designed for conicals with a 1:24 twist and some ,like my double barrel 58 are 1:48 Theyare available in the states from Cherry's, Dixie and other places. so parts if ever needed aren't hard to find