I ment the oil interfearing with the powder. I use, for now Pyro Pellets. I'll do the oil and alcohol thing. Im thinking of switching to loose powder to get the best accuracy possible. It seems as loose powder in the 120gr measurement is the standard for best accuracy, give or take.

Breechplug

Kinda thought so - so if you are shooting a Pyro - then the tar issue is a non-issue. The reason for running the alcohol patch before shooting is to remove as much oil as you can to prevent the sabot from slipping in the barrel when fired. Sabots are self lubricating - so they do not need the oil,- but you also loose your bore protection when hunting is lousy weather. I have been able to get around that issue so far.

I think you would like loose powder much better than pellets in the long run. I again assuming you are talking 120 gr of a Pyro, I shoot loose T7 and for most guns I shot 100 grains for years. But in the recent past I have moved to 110 grains in all the inlines except the Knight and I use 120 in it.

In actuality(sp) your gun will tell you what it likes best when start shooting a powder/projectile combination.

Tell her you might consider a .45 in the Apex (for her.. ).

Yes it looks nice, My wife had me look it up and show her after she saw the reply from you. I told her to hold off untill spring or mid summer rolls around as they may come outwith something even better. I wish CVA would put a Laminated Stock on the ACCURA like they did for the Kodiak Pro. My second ACCURA will be here tomorrow, cant wait to get the Ultimate Slam Scope on her. What powder/sabot combination did your ACCURA like the best?

Ordered some Casey Sheath today, also got some of the Montana XTreme Gun Oil, bought a few of each. The XTreme Bore Conditioner should be here soon. Back to the Casey Sheath....now that yu have been using the casey sheath, and the XTreme BC, when do you use each? Or are you just using one or the other? Do you use the XTreme when shooting and them the CS after cleaning? Also what do you use on your trigger mechs.? I have been using Molly Lube, it's a dry film aerosol lube, any thoughts on that one?

In truth, I haven't fired that many different combos but both of my Accura like the 300 grain .452 XTP in Harvester Crushed Rib sabots and the 10mm 200 grain XTP in blue MMP sabots. I only tried 90 and 100 grains volumetric charges of BH209 and the rifle (and I agreed with it) seemed to favor the 90 grain charge. When the weather warms a little, I'll play with some more loads.

I would have bought one in .45 if they had offered it without the thumbhole stock.

Thank's for the infor. Yes, Im not a big fan of the Thumbhole either. I want my second ACCURA to be the long range one, have you tried any load a little hotter, say 120gr and up. I want to reach out and touch them darn Coyotes,and the occasional Big Buck standing in the cut Corn Field.recoil is no problem for me, but I dont want to sacrafice accuracy either.

How do the 90-100gr. of BH compare to the 50gr pyro pellets. I know loose powder is more hotter than the pellets. Would 120+++gr. of BH be too much?

What's wrong with that? I take that amount of time and then some, I want that thing to be around for years to come. New guns are getting outrageous in price and mine shoot great so as long I maintain them.

Breechplug

Here is a target with velocities shot from one of my Remington's using BH-209



Here is a target with T7 velocities in about the same loads...



and this last target with a comparison of both - Shot this at the end of one afternoon as the light was running out...



To get a Pyro comparison you might reduce these velocities by 15% - that might get you in the ball park...