Thank's for the infor. Yes, Im not a big fan of the Thumbhole either. I want my second ACCURA to be the long range one, have you tried any load a little hotter, say 120gr and up. I want to reach out and touch them darn Coyotes,and the occasional Big Buck standing in the cut Corn Field.recoil is no problem for me, but I dont want to sacrafice accuracy either.