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01-10-2009, 08:04 AM
#1
Boone & Crockett
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Gentlemen - I don't know if its true or not but after reading this I promply sent emails to my state and federal reps. I urge you to do the same.
Subject: Hunting buddies: Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30,
2009] (UNCLASSIFIED)
Subject: Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009
Looks like it is already starting. First at the State level then
the
Fed's!
Tim
It has already started...
Ammunition Accountability Legislation
Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns?
Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem
with
taking your ammo!
The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois
and
Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data
base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and
what
calibers.
Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the
ammunition is coded.
Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July
1,
2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax
on
every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or
more!
If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your
gun!
This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama,
Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky,
Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania,
Rhode
Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.
Send to your friends in these states AND fight to dissolve this
BILL!!
To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this
legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:
http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
Subject: Hunting buddies: Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30,
2009] (UNCLASSIFIED)
Subject: Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009
Looks like it is already starting. First at the State level then
the
Fed's!
Tim
It has already started...
Ammunition Accountability Legislation
Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns?
Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem
with
taking your ammo!
The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois
and
Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data
base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and
what
calibers.
Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the
ammunition is coded.
Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July
1,
2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax
on
every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or
more!
If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your
gun!
This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama,
Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky,
Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania,
Rhode
Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.
Send to your friends in these states AND fight to dissolve this
BILL!!
To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this
legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:
http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
01-10-2009, 08:47 AM
#5
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: NC
Posts: 211
RE: Also posted in Guns Forum
DURHAM -- Gun owners looking to reload would have to show a permit every time they buy ammunition, if a bill backed by Durham officials gains state approval.
The proposal championed by the Rev. Melvin Whitley, a local community activist, will face opposition from gun-rights groups.
Whitley told state lawmakers and Durham City Council members Monday that anyone over 18 can buy ammunition without being subject to any background check. That means felons, who aren't allowed to own guns or ammo, can buy bullets unfettered.
Requiring a permit to buy bullets, just as the state does for firearms, is a "no-brainer," he said.
"It's a wonder we have not identified this loophole in the past," Whitley told council members.
But Paul Valone, president of Grass Roots North Carolina, a gun-rights lobbying group, called the idea "ludicrous."
Felons with the means and determination to obtain a gun illegally wouldn't have any trouble finding a way around the bullet-permit law, Valone said.
"The only people this would restrict is law-abiding gun owners," Valone said.
"We will be happy to defeat this bill and any legislator who supports it."
Rep. Mickey Michaux, a Durham Democrat, expects such stiff opposition. The bill hasn't been introduced, but Michaux said it would be soon in one or both chambers of the General Assembly.
Michaux supports the idea.
But he said the bill has "about the same chance as getting a ban on handguns in this state. We've been outnumbered over the years by the strong arm of the [National Rifle Association]."
Illinois has a similar law, enacted in 1968. It requires people to apply for a Firearm Owner's Identification Card that must be displayed when buying a firearm or ammunition.
It costs $5 and is valid for five years.
There are about 1.2 million card holders in the state, according to the Illinois State Police Web site.
Even supporters have questions about logistics.
Ron Hodge, deputy chief of the Durham Police Department, said it wouldn't be hard to issue a bullet card with a handgun permit. The trouble would come with people who already have obtained their handgun permit having to go through another permitting process, Hodge said.
That would be cumbersome for the agency distributing the permits -- likely county sheriffs -- and for legal gun owners, he said.
Whitley said any inconveniences are trumped by the need to add another hurdle in the path of violent criminals.
"It's the bullets that are hurting us," he said.
Staff writer Matt Dees can be reached at 956-2433 or [email protected].
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In December, Whitley presented his bill to a City Council work session, at which the council agreed to consider putting it on Durham's legislative wish list.
Grassroots North Carolina, a group that bills itself as supporters of Second Amendment Rights on gun ownership, has sent an alert to its members, asking them to send letters of opposition to Durham City Council members. And folks who support Whitley's proposals are sending the council letters, too.
Durham officials were scheduled to discuss the proposal today along with other requests for legislation, but the meeting has been canceled.
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The proposal championed by the Rev. Melvin Whitley, a local community activist, will face opposition from gun-rights groups.
Whitley told state lawmakers and Durham City Council members Monday that anyone over 18 can buy ammunition without being subject to any background check. That means felons, who aren't allowed to own guns or ammo, can buy bullets unfettered.
Requiring a permit to buy bullets, just as the state does for firearms, is a "no-brainer," he said.
"It's a wonder we have not identified this loophole in the past," Whitley told council members.
But Paul Valone, president of Grass Roots North Carolina, a gun-rights lobbying group, called the idea "ludicrous."
Felons with the means and determination to obtain a gun illegally wouldn't have any trouble finding a way around the bullet-permit law, Valone said.
"The only people this would restrict is law-abiding gun owners," Valone said.
"We will be happy to defeat this bill and any legislator who supports it."
Rep. Mickey Michaux, a Durham Democrat, expects such stiff opposition. The bill hasn't been introduced, but Michaux said it would be soon in one or both chambers of the General Assembly.
Michaux supports the idea.
But he said the bill has "about the same chance as getting a ban on handguns in this state. We've been outnumbered over the years by the strong arm of the [National Rifle Association]."
Illinois has a similar law, enacted in 1968. It requires people to apply for a Firearm Owner's Identification Card that must be displayed when buying a firearm or ammunition.
It costs $5 and is valid for five years.
There are about 1.2 million card holders in the state, according to the Illinois State Police Web site.
Even supporters have questions about logistics.
Ron Hodge, deputy chief of the Durham Police Department, said it wouldn't be hard to issue a bullet card with a handgun permit. The trouble would come with people who already have obtained their handgun permit having to go through another permitting process, Hodge said.
That would be cumbersome for the agency distributing the permits -- likely county sheriffs -- and for legal gun owners, he said.
Whitley said any inconveniences are trumped by the need to add another hurdle in the path of violent criminals.
"It's the bullets that are hurting us," he said.
Staff writer Matt Dees can be reached at 956-2433 or [email protected].
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In December, Whitley presented his bill to a City Council work session, at which the council agreed to consider putting it on Durham's legislative wish list.
Grassroots North Carolina, a group that bills itself as supporters of Second Amendment Rights on gun ownership, has sent an alert to its members, asking them to send letters of opposition to Durham City Council members. And folks who support Whitley's proposals are sending the council letters, too.
Durham officials were scheduled to discuss the proposal today along with other requests for legislation, but the meeting has been canceled.
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