Black Pearl SCORES!!!!!
#12
Hoosier_Hunter1963
Not to start a long controversy... but it is not necessary to shoot an animal in the shoulder to get it to go down ... now - and in fact it might not always work at all. I have seen several elk shot in the shoulder and it makes no difference to them at all - they still have 3 functioning.... I have seen whitetail go bang-down after a shoulder shot and then in a few minutes of shock recovery time get up and go again... so it is not the all end all shot.
What really makes the difference, for me, I am talking about - is what does the bullet do on it way through the animal. If it pancakes or pencils (semi's term) then you might be in trouble. I use a bullet that cause a TRAMATIC shock to the whole animal and when I can I shoot the crease. My bullet will always expand to about 3/4 inch with 6 copper wings cutting their way through the animal, but the most important thing is creats a tremendous 'hydrostactic' shock to the vitals. It will turn the lungs to jello and usually it will do the same to the heart whether you hit all them or not.
Here is an elk I shot @ 100+ yards... It was shot in the crease... it had enough energy to turn 180 degrees from it's original direction and them fall to the ground.

You can see the bullet entered the crease passed through the vitals and exited out the other side into a upper leg bone. When i open her all of the lungs were gone - nothing but jello - there still was a portion of the upper heart intack but everything else was mush.This was a tremendous shock to herwhole system - down she went....
Found a composit picture if the recovered bullet.

Not to start a long controversy... but it is not necessary to shoot an animal in the shoulder to get it to go down ... now - and in fact it might not always work at all. I have seen several elk shot in the shoulder and it makes no difference to them at all - they still have 3 functioning.... I have seen whitetail go bang-down after a shoulder shot and then in a few minutes of shock recovery time get up and go again... so it is not the all end all shot.
What really makes the difference, for me, I am talking about - is what does the bullet do on it way through the animal. If it pancakes or pencils (semi's term) then you might be in trouble. I use a bullet that cause a TRAMATIC shock to the whole animal and when I can I shoot the crease. My bullet will always expand to about 3/4 inch with 6 copper wings cutting their way through the animal, but the most important thing is creats a tremendous 'hydrostactic' shock to the vitals. It will turn the lungs to jello and usually it will do the same to the heart whether you hit all them or not.
Here is an elk I shot @ 100+ yards... It was shot in the crease... it had enough energy to turn 180 degrees from it's original direction and them fall to the ground.

You can see the bullet entered the crease passed through the vitals and exited out the other side into a upper leg bone. When i open her all of the lungs were gone - nothing but jello - there still was a portion of the upper heart intack but everything else was mush.This was a tremendous shock to herwhole system - down she went....
Found a composit picture if the recovered bullet.

#13
Congrats!! Thanks for the story and I'm glad you got your buck! We all want bang-flops, but it doesn't always happen- sometimes its shot placement, sometimes its bullet performance, sometimes that's just how things go. A deer pumped up on adrenaline can go a distance even if its missing 2 lungs or a heart.
#14
Congrats on a fine deer
Is it a safe assumption(If there is any such thing) that some of the solid bullets shoud be shot at the shoulder,are they designed for this type of impact for optimal preformance while other clad bullets should go behind the shoulder?
Is it a safe assumption(If there is any such thing) that some of the solid bullets shoud be shot at the shoulder,are they designed for this type of impact for optimal preformance while other clad bullets should go behind the shoulder?






