50/40 Test
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Ohio,mid
My dogone camera won't work and momma don't know where she put the charger! Anyhow spent some time w/ the Pro Hunter 50/Thumbhole at the range Sunday. I have been shooting 110 grain measured T7 loose, winchester T7 primer and 250 grain shockwaes in an easy glide sabot. I had GOOD results. I swabbed 1 windex both sides and one dry both sides between shots.
This forum and MM forum got me all wound up and I worked w/ ISP and purchased for play:
Hornady 10mm 200 grain HP/XTP
50/40 Harvester Crush Rib Sabot
Shooting 110grain/ BH 209 measured
CCI 209 M Primers
Sunny day, no wind about 68 degrees. I did not swab between shots
50 yardline/Alcohol patch/dry patch prior to the first shot - Shooting off an Allen Rest
1st 3 shots were1 1/2 inches high and 2 inches left of my center aim. 2" between holes, I don't know if that was me getting used to the rest. However other than a POI change, it was hitting where I left it w/ the T7 loose charge.
2nd 3 shots, I made aleft to right adjustment of 6 clicks on my Nikon Omega scope. 2 touching, 1 approx. 1/2 inch right. Still 1 1/2inches high.
3rd 3 shots, Made no adjustments to scope shot another 3, all with in 1/2 inch. Still 1 1/2" high.
Immediately jumped for joy and showed black gun shooters target. Those guys always make fun of my smoke maker. Can't argue anymore on 50 Yard line.
100 Yard - still no swabbing
1st 3 shots, Dead on bulls eye all 3 shots on a Score keeper target touching.
These are the targets that go green when hit.
2nd 3 shots, dead on bulls eye all 3 shots, paper is broken into each bullet hole, 2 of them into each other. I can just make out the second bullets outline.
I did not get out to 200 yard because the range shut down on me.
On the last bullet I stuffed down the barrel, Ifelt some roughness in seating the bullet, but felt like I could keep shooting w/out a swab.
I am noit sure where the Nikon will take me at 200 yards seeing as it is not a 150 grain T7 load? I would feel more comfy if i could have shot the 200 mark. Anyone got an idea based on this report???
Clean up was a couple swipes w/ a Hoopes #9, alcohol swab, dry [patch both sides (some habits hard to break) Rem oil. The breech plug was dirty but some scrubbing dealt w/ that.
I will never go back to T7. I am not of the caliber shooter or experimenter that some of the peoo[ple on this site are . But, I love that BH209, the bullets.I liked shooting w/out swabbing in between.I now know the gun is shooting, now I have to do my part in the woods.
This forum and MM forum got me all wound up and I worked w/ ISP and purchased for play:
Hornady 10mm 200 grain HP/XTP
50/40 Harvester Crush Rib Sabot
Shooting 110grain/ BH 209 measured
CCI 209 M Primers
Sunny day, no wind about 68 degrees. I did not swab between shots
50 yardline/Alcohol patch/dry patch prior to the first shot - Shooting off an Allen Rest
1st 3 shots were1 1/2 inches high and 2 inches left of my center aim. 2" between holes, I don't know if that was me getting used to the rest. However other than a POI change, it was hitting where I left it w/ the T7 loose charge.
2nd 3 shots, I made aleft to right adjustment of 6 clicks on my Nikon Omega scope. 2 touching, 1 approx. 1/2 inch right. Still 1 1/2inches high.
3rd 3 shots, Made no adjustments to scope shot another 3, all with in 1/2 inch. Still 1 1/2" high.
Immediately jumped for joy and showed black gun shooters target. Those guys always make fun of my smoke maker. Can't argue anymore on 50 Yard line.
100 Yard - still no swabbing
1st 3 shots, Dead on bulls eye all 3 shots on a Score keeper target touching.
These are the targets that go green when hit.
2nd 3 shots, dead on bulls eye all 3 shots, paper is broken into each bullet hole, 2 of them into each other. I can just make out the second bullets outline.
I did not get out to 200 yard because the range shut down on me.
On the last bullet I stuffed down the barrel, Ifelt some roughness in seating the bullet, but felt like I could keep shooting w/out a swab.
I am noit sure where the Nikon will take me at 200 yards seeing as it is not a 150 grain T7 load? I would feel more comfy if i could have shot the 200 mark. Anyone got an idea based on this report???
Clean up was a couple swipes w/ a Hoopes #9, alcohol swab, dry [patch both sides (some habits hard to break) Rem oil. The breech plug was dirty but some scrubbing dealt w/ that.
I will never go back to T7. I am not of the caliber shooter or experimenter that some of the peoo[ple on this site are . But, I love that BH209, the bullets.I liked shooting w/out swabbing in between.I now know the gun is shooting, now I have to do my part in the woods.
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Nontypical Buck
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Sounds like you are dialed in for 100. I don't know what the tables indicate for 200, but seems like any deer within 100 yards of you is in trouble.
I want to try BH 209 too. Need to burn up my last jug of Pyrodex. At the rate I'm going it will take years, seemsI only shoot maybe ten shots a year lately. Maybe the price will come down by the time I'm ready.
I want to try BH 209 too. Need to burn up my last jug of Pyrodex. At the rate I'm going it will take years, seemsI only shoot maybe ten shots a year lately. Maybe the price will come down by the time I'm ready.
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Buck Hunter,
I've shot 3 deer with the 200 grain .40 XTP - all were boom-flops. Got pass-throughs 2 out of the 3 times- the 3rd time it was lodged underneath the far-side hide. I'm a big fan personally- it's the only bullet I use right now for deer hunting. It always expands good, causes massive internal damage, and usually holds together well.
I will say, you do need to be somewhat careful how fast you push them- I wouldn't use any more than what you're using- 110 T7 loose. If you're using that much powder, you're probably not going to get full penetration on close (under 50 yards) shots. So if you have a close shot, make sure the deer is broadside and you aim BEHIND the front shoulder. That'll drop it fast, though you may not get a pass-through. The one 200 grainer that I didn't get a complete pass-through was at point-blank range (7 yards) and while the bullet didn't fragment, the core did separate from the jacket (I think that was 90 or 100 grains T7 loose). Of course, the bullet still completely pulverized the heart/lung area, so I'm not complaining.
If you're dead on at 100 yards, you're probably going to be 8 - 10" low at 200 yards with that load, but that's just a ball-park, you'd have to shoot it to be sure. Good luck hunting!
I've shot 3 deer with the 200 grain .40 XTP - all were boom-flops. Got pass-throughs 2 out of the 3 times- the 3rd time it was lodged underneath the far-side hide. I'm a big fan personally- it's the only bullet I use right now for deer hunting. It always expands good, causes massive internal damage, and usually holds together well.
I will say, you do need to be somewhat careful how fast you push them- I wouldn't use any more than what you're using- 110 T7 loose. If you're using that much powder, you're probably not going to get full penetration on close (under 50 yards) shots. So if you have a close shot, make sure the deer is broadside and you aim BEHIND the front shoulder. That'll drop it fast, though you may not get a pass-through. The one 200 grainer that I didn't get a complete pass-through was at point-blank range (7 yards) and while the bullet didn't fragment, the core did separate from the jacket (I think that was 90 or 100 grains T7 loose). Of course, the bullet still completely pulverized the heart/lung area, so I'm not complaining.
If you're dead on at 100 yards, you're probably going to be 8 - 10" low at 200 yards with that load, but that's just a ball-park, you'd have to shoot it to be sure. Good luck hunting!
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Ohio,mid
Old Smellhound that is what I wanted to hear. I am shooting BH209 at 110 grains, not T7. That has always been my shot though, laying it in behind the shoulder broadside. Thanks for everyones input. I eave tommorow for Wildcat Hollow in Ohio for inline hunting. No permit required this year and you could take a buck or doe. Also taking the Xbow so It should be a blast. Thanks all!
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Buck Hunter- have fun hunting! I've hunted central & southern ohio a lot- I had some co-workers who used to have great success in Wildcat Hollow, but I've never been there myself. Hope you get one!



