Now THAT'S SHOOTING. Almost like the following bullets had a homing device on the first one. Sabots do make a difference, don't they. But you're right - the planets and stars must be in perfect alignment.

Not to sure about the stars and planets, but a cloudy windless day about 70 degrees really helps. Lee

Thanks Lee, and all the others for your responses. I'll shoot some of those recipes and see what I come up with.

im am 13 and looking for a muzzleloader i want some thing that can get out there 250 yrds. what would be best for me

Hello there deerkiller13. 250 yards is a pretty ambitious goal. I'm no good at all past 175 yards. You need to give us a little info on your background. Would this be your first muzzleloader?Are youexperienced withcartridge rifles? If you are already shooting, what gun/loads/distances have you shot? You might want to start a new post with your question, and provide some background informaton. I'm sure the guys here will have lots of advicefor you.

just found my triumph load. 2 IMR Whitehots with a 250gr SST low drag sabot, and a kleenbore primer.