I posted this over on MM also so if you looked over there you ahve already seen this... but I really am excited about about the results of this test....

Another day another shooting adventure...

Couple of peole have asked about shooting BH in a Remington 700ML - Now I gotta tel uall - I know there is a lot of you out there that do not like this ML - but it is my all time favorite... got 2 em would not trade for the world... I think I can do anything with them you can do with your modern inlines - SO tady I went to prove my feelings.... the Remington will shoot BH and it will shot it as accurate as the shooter is.

Acually there was a small worry on my part, because the Remington is an open breech with a falling hammer - not what Western recommends. I was worried about the primer flying apart as it did in the White and possible a real stiff blowback re-cocking the hammer.

Because of these concerns I started shooting 90gr and worked to 120 grs. My normal load in this gun is 110 grains of T7-2f - so venturing out to 120 was really an experiment but I am glad I did.

With the copper weather shield and the Cabelas conversion I have no concerns about shooting BH in the Remington. It shot adsolutely great. It did not match the velocity of the Knight with like amount of powder, but I think I can explain that also. The bore of the Remington is slightly larger than the Knight and the Orange MMP's fit a little looser - not loose enough that I would ever be concerned, but definitely not as tight as the Knight and a lot tighter than the White.

Here is the target information - remember this is a 50 yard target so those cloverleafs do not count in real life.

1 slight hang fire - but I did find I needed to compress the sabot on to the powder - no further hang fires...



Here is a collection pictures that might also provide additional information.



Pic #1 - the external blowback in the bolt area is no worse than any other open breech gun. Nothing on the scope. And really not a lot showing out of the relief whole in the weather shield
Pic#2 - Internal bowback - I can handle that - that is not bad
Pic#3 - Several of the primers were pushed back like this inside the breech are - but only 2 shots re-cocked the bolt. I get simular resuts shooting T7. Another point this 209 Nipple has had a LOT of shots go through it. The flash hole does not look it has eroded at all but possibly a new nipple would stop a lot of this.
Pic #4 - The collected primers - CCI 209m - only the one came copletely apart - the primer cup stayed in the nipple but the primer was laying loose in the reciever - a lot of them were close... I am think Busta said that he was shooting another primer that did not come apart as easy - I think Federals - might have to try to find some
Pic #5- Rem on the Farm - pea field...

Have not cleaned it yet so can not tell you about that - I get to it tonight after football practice...

I am really excited bout the fact that I feel comfortable shooting BH in the Remingtons...

Guess that is it... cept - SEMI i'm still gonna shoot T7 for the forseeable future...

Mike to bad one of your 700's isn't a 54 so you could test the 209 in that cal too.
I'll also stick with T 7 in my Remingtons, Some have said I'm a wooden shoe jew.
Just the same thanks for the test information. I get primers like that with just 100gr.T7 in the 54 just about every shot and I also use the CCI's
Al

sabotloader - Very interesting, thanks for posting that. I have not shot BH out of my 700 but even w/777 I still have some of the primers coming out. I was actually a little concerned that they were doing that but it sounds like you the same results. When I get back from CO in a couple weeks I think I'll give it a whirl in mine as well.

TNHagies

Ya! it is really pretty common even with T7... but I have never seen them actually flying around they just sort of poop out...

Mike, do you have an BM3?

UC

No, I have never had any... it never made it to the great northwest... and you know me I am to dang cheap to pay the Hazmat fees...

Side note - that new Leupold ML scope came in today - it really looks like a great scope... itis suppose to function somewhat like the Nikon shooting a 250gr SST/SW with pellets... but with the reticule once you get it sighted in there are many point locations to shoot from - even in short range. and of course the glass is really great even in low light... Think it is going to be fun towork with. i just do not want to take any of the scope that I have now - they all work so well - might just have to buy anther gun to put the scope on.... that is certainly good "Peterson" logic -Terry would kill me...

Great report.
I have a friend with one of those guns and he loves it.