Maxi-hunters
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4
Maxi-hunters
I've got a TC Omega. Last year I used TC Mag-express sabots. they were great for accuracy but I hate the way they load. Almost had to pound them down the barrel. My wife (who hunted with me for the first time last year) ikes the shock waves but those are even harder to load.
I had used Buffalo ball-ets in the past with a CVA & liked the accuracy but LOVED the way they loaded. I tried to use them in my Omega & they wouldn't group worth a crap.
I was thinking about using either Buffalo bullets(conicals) or Maxi-hunters. I really like how the lubed bullets load.
Anyone have any experience with either of these out of an Omega? Powder charge (I use 777)? etc?
thanks
I had used Buffalo ball-ets in the past with a CVA & liked the accuracy but LOVED the way they loaded. I tried to use them in my Omega & they wouldn't group worth a crap.
I was thinking about using either Buffalo bullets(conicals) or Maxi-hunters. I really like how the lubed bullets load.
Anyone have any experience with either of these out of an Omega? Powder charge (I use 777)? etc?
thanks
#2
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Posts: 3,246
RE: Maxi-hunters
ORIGINAL: finity
I've got a TC Omega. Last year I used TC Mag-express sabots. they were great for accuracy but I hate the way they load. Almost had to pound them down the barrel. My wife (who hunted with me for the first time last year) ikes the shock waves but those are even harder to load.
I had used Buffalo ball-ets in the past with a CVA & liked the accuracy but LOVED the way they loaded. I tried to use them in my Omega & they wouldn't group worth a crap.
I was thinking about using either Buffalo bullets(conicals) or Maxi-hunters. I really like how the lubed bullets load.
Anyone have any experience with either of these out of an Omega? Powder charge (I use 777)? etc?
thanks
I've got a TC Omega. Last year I used TC Mag-express sabots. they were great for accuracy but I hate the way they load. Almost had to pound them down the barrel. My wife (who hunted with me for the first time last year) ikes the shock waves but those are even harder to load.
I had used Buffalo ball-ets in the past with a CVA & liked the accuracy but LOVED the way they loaded. I tried to use them in my Omega & they wouldn't group worth a crap.
I was thinking about using either Buffalo bullets(conicals) or Maxi-hunters. I really like how the lubed bullets load.
Anyone have any experience with either of these out of an Omega? Powder charge (I use 777)? etc?
thanks
Chap Gleason
#3
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kerrville, Tx. USA
Posts: 2,722
RE: Maxi-hunters
A fair amount of Omegas will not shoot conicals well, with the exception of possibly powerbelts. You certainly can try some, but I spent 4 years trying before giving up. If you want to try, I would suggest starting at 80-90 grains as lower charges seem to group better.
One trick that I have not tried yet is to cut the cup off at the base of the sabot plastic and put it as a "wad" under the bullet. Then it might act like a powerbelt and shoot decently. Otherwise, cutting off the QLA may be the only way to get it to shoot them better.
If you can legally shoot sabots and they are accurate, I would simply try and find some that are not as hard to get down the barrel. Having not ever shot sabots, I can't help you there.
One trick that I have not tried yet is to cut the cup off at the base of the sabot plastic and put it as a "wad" under the bullet. Then it might act like a powerbelt and shoot decently. Otherwise, cutting off the QLA may be the only way to get it to shoot them better.
If you can legally shoot sabots and they are accurate, I would simply try and find some that are not as hard to get down the barrel. Having not ever shot sabots, I can't help you there.
#4
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,425
RE: Maxi-hunters
You need to get in touch with MMP and get thinner sabots...
There is no standard for bore diameter in ml rifles, so you have to make adjustments in the thickness of the sabot that you use in each gun...There is nothing wrong with the SST/Shockwaves, you just need to experiment with different sabots...
There is no standard for bore diameter in ml rifles, so you have to make adjustments in the thickness of the sabot that you use in each gun...There is nothing wrong with the SST/Shockwaves, you just need to experiment with different sabots...
#5
Spike
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Posts: 60
RE: Maxi-hunters
Finity,
Consider Hornady's 250g SSTs w/Low Drag sabots. http://www.grafs.com/fc/browse.php?q...=az&p=3419
Worked wonders for my CVA Wolf. Loaded as easy as using MMP's 3-petal sabots.
Would try 100-120gr T7. Good Luck!
James
Consider Hornady's 250g SSTs w/Low Drag sabots. http://www.grafs.com/fc/browse.php?q...=az&p=3419
Worked wonders for my CVA Wolf. Loaded as easy as using MMP's 3-petal sabots.
Would try 100-120gr T7. Good Luck!
James
#6
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Posts: 5,180
RE: Maxi-hunters
I just got my omega last week and am shooting right now 370g maxi balls. Im not a fan at all of the performance on game from the maxiball, the maxihunter i never shot at game.
1 3/8" groups @ 100 yards which is more than respectable but i am going to be using powerbelts as always. No clue how they will shoot but it should do really well.
Dont go over 80 grains with the maxi hunters. TC has some seriously shallow rifling and i think the groups would open up a lot with more powder.
Powerbelts are also one of your choices to give a go with. No fumbling around with trying to put the bullet back in the sabot. No messy lube which really gets your blood pumping when you accidently knock over the box of conicals.
i'd suggest the 295 aerotip powerbelt with 80 grains triple 7 if you go that route.
1 3/8" groups @ 100 yards which is more than respectable but i am going to be using powerbelts as always. No clue how they will shoot but it should do really well.
Dont go over 80 grains with the maxi hunters. TC has some seriously shallow rifling and i think the groups would open up a lot with more powder.
Powerbelts are also one of your choices to give a go with. No fumbling around with trying to put the bullet back in the sabot. No messy lube which really gets your blood pumping when you accidently knock over the box of conicals.
i'd suggest the 295 aerotip powerbelt with 80 grains triple 7 if you go that route.
#7
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2005
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RE: Maxi-hunters
ORIGINAL: txhunter58
A fair amount of Omegas will not shoot conicals well, with the exception of possibly powerbelts. You certainly can try some, but I spent 4 years trying before giving up. If you want to try, I would suggest starting at 80-90 grains as lower charges seem to group better.
One trick that I have not tried yet is to cut the cup off at the base of the sabot plastic and put it as a "wad" under the bullet. Then it might act like a powerbelt and shoot decently. Otherwise, cutting off the QLA may be the only way to get it to shoot them better.
If you can legally shoot sabots and they are accurate, I would simply try and find some that are not as hard to get down the barrel. Having not ever shot sabots, I can't help you there.
A fair amount of Omegas will not shoot conicals well, with the exception of possibly powerbelts. You certainly can try some, but I spent 4 years trying before giving up. If you want to try, I would suggest starting at 80-90 grains as lower charges seem to group better.
One trick that I have not tried yet is to cut the cup off at the base of the sabot plastic and put it as a "wad" under the bullet. Then it might act like a powerbelt and shoot decently. Otherwise, cutting off the QLA may be the only way to get it to shoot them better.
If you can legally shoot sabots and they are accurate, I would simply try and find some that are not as hard to get down the barrel. Having not ever shot sabots, I can't help you there.
#8
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kerrville, Tx. USA
Posts: 2,722
RE: Maxi-hunters
As far as saying they would shoot conicals, it depends on when you bought yours. When they first came out, they did say shoots sabots and conicals, but then the whole deal of the QLA causing problems with conicals came out and since then, they just state on their website that they are sabot shooters. And if you call them, that is what they will tell you.
As stated, you might get lucky and get one that will, because my brother and I both got identical guns on the same day, and his will shoot conicals ok, but mine won't .
It is certainly worth a shot to see if the gun will shoot them, but I would never buy an Omega with the idea that I was going to shoot sabots, because it might never shoot them well.
As stated, you might get lucky and get one that will, because my brother and I both got identical guns on the same day, and his will shoot conicals ok, but mine won't .
It is certainly worth a shot to see if the gun will shoot them, but I would never buy an Omega with the idea that I was going to shoot sabots, because it might never shoot them well.
#9
RE: Maxi-hunters
In your omega, if the sabots are loading hard get a pack of Harvester Crushed Rib sabots and change out the sabots. Also Omega's can take a good powder charge and hold true. I would load 100 grains and try that combination.
#10
RE: Maxi-hunters
just got my omega last week and am shooting right now 370g maxi balls. Im not a fan at all of the performance on game from the maxiball, the maxihunter i never shot at game.