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frontier gander 06-14-2008 06:46 PM

RE: Triumph vs Omega vs Kodiak Pro
 
www.Ganderspowerbeltforu.powerguild.net and we'll take care of you there:D Powerbelts is the main topic there and we need Powerbelt hunters to join our field test for this years hunting seasons. A lot of guys going to be shooting the 270g platinum.

oldsmellhound 06-14-2008 07:53 PM

RE: Triumph vs Omega vs Kodiak Pro
 
If you want to stick with powerbelts, I would recommend going with a CVA product - they are geared toward shooting powerbelts well. Also, in my experience, CVA makes very good shooting rifles that are a bargain. You don't get the fit and finish you do on a TC or a Knight, but they generally shoot good.

frontier gander 06-14-2008 07:58 PM

RE: Triumph vs Omega vs Kodiak Pro
 
not just powerbelts, but with a very good assortment of conicals.

Thats why i never bought any of the other stuff. I stick with what will shoot what i need.

SteveBNy 06-14-2008 08:26 PM

RE: Triumph vs Omega vs Kodiak Pro
 

do a search on "Powerbeltfragments" and you will see what I mean. Now do aGoogle search on "Barnes fragments" or "Nosler Partition Fragments" and see what ya find.
I tried it - very informative and supports what the majority feel and say.

Steve

frontier gander 06-14-2008 08:28 PM

RE: Triumph vs Omega vs Kodiak Pro
 
try cabelas too. more positive than negetive. Chap doesnt understand that you can not push an all lead conical in the 295g range with 150g pellets and have to hold together. Also doesnt understand that 150g pellets isnt and never was intended for close range shooting.

Flatland Hunter 06-15-2008 12:34 PM

RE: Triumph vs Omega vs Kodiak Pro
 

ORIGINAL: gleason.chapman

PB will only shoot "low power" (<1400 fps), so they don't fragment. My personal experience with PB is terrible and so I can't recommend them, many have other experiences, butdo a search on "Powerbeltfragments" and you will see what I mean. Now do aGoogle search on "Barnes fragments" or "Nosler Partition Fragments" and see what ya find. Fragmentation leads to non-penetration and non-penetration leads to non-lethal hit.
Chap
Gander, what doesn't he understand?

frontier gander 06-15-2008 12:39 PM

RE: Triumph vs Omega vs Kodiak Pro
 
Doesnt understand that magnum charges were never intended for short range shooting. Now, if you want to use magnum charges, do like powderbelt says, match the bullet to the powder charge and to the distance you'll be shooting.

If i were using mag charges and my max distance was lets say 75 yards and possibly a lot closer like 30 yards. I'd use atleast the 338g Platinum or the 348 copper series. Brutal recoil and a waste of powder but some feel they need it.

I feel that i need 110g ffg goex in my great plains, but thats because it groups the best.

Actually, i think the 300g platinum would do well for shorter range and mag charges.

SteveBNy 06-15-2008 04:35 PM

RE: Triumph vs Omega vs Kodiak Pro
 

Chap doesnt understand that you can not push an all lead conical in the 295g range with 150g pellets and have to hold together. Also doesnt understand that 150g pellets isnt and never was intended for close range shooting.
Chap says:

PB will only shoot "low power" (<1400 fps), so they don't fragment.
I'd say he understands them very well.
Steve

frontier gander 06-15-2008 04:39 PM

RE: Triumph vs Omega vs Kodiak Pro
 
They can be pushed much faster than 1400fps. You just cant push them at MAGNUM charges at a deer at 30 yards away. Like ive said before, my 295g and 245g powerbelts driven by 150g LOOSE powder and 120g Loose powder did excellent on the deer that i shot from 148 and 146 yards away.

gleason.chapman 06-15-2008 06:48 PM

RE: Triumph vs Omega vs Kodiak Pro
 

ORIGINAL: frontier gander

They can be pushed much faster than 1400fps. You just cant push them at MAGNUM charges at a deer at 30 yards away. Like ive said before, my 295g and 245g powerbelts driven by 150g LOOSE powder and 120g Loose powder did excellent on the deer that i shot from 148 and 146 yards away.
Just my experience Gander, I know you feel otherwise. I am reporting my results and recommendations, just as you are. The person who asks the question gets to make the decision what they will use in their new gun. I shot them, I know for me they are not the bullets that hold together at high speeds, therefore I will not shoot them nor will I recommend someone asking for advice on new guns and bullets to shoot them. Give them your shooting experiments and let them make the determination. The facts will speak for themselves, appears the new Platinuum are a bit tougher and don't pancake out as bad at 100g. Most guys want to shoot 100g of pellets in an inline, so they need a bullet that won't fragement, in my personal experience that is a Nosler Partion or a Barnes or a Speer Gold Dot in my opinion. Your free to give your opinion and let the buyer determination what he wants to use. Chap


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