Out on the range???
#11
ORIGINAL: Semisane
That's what it's really all about. I find load development and experimentationinteresting and fun.Of course, with the number of guns you have you need a data base to keep track of loads.
Time will tell. I have a lot of things to try
#12
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Dec 2005
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ORIGINAL: cayugad
They are talking -25 tonight so we will see. This weather has to break pretty soon I hope.
They are talking -25 tonight so we will see. This weather has to break pretty soon I hope.
Chap
#13
I'm not brave enough to walk 1/2 mile to set in the snow at the bench right now.
Took my son fishing after school yeasterday, and today the roads are asnow/sleet/ice covered mess. It's been right at 70°F hear earlier in the week, and now a winter storm warning with a predicted low of 12°F for tomorrow night. By the middle of next week it may be warm again.
Took my son fishing after school yeasterday, and today the roads are asnow/sleet/ice covered mess. It's been right at 70°F hear earlier in the week, and now a winter storm warning with a predicted low of 12°F for tomorrow night. By the middle of next week it may be warm again.

#14
cayugad
Dave, do not know if this applies with your gun but while playing with mine, assemble and disasemble i did notice the barrel and the action getting somewhat caught in the stock. In fact the reciever portion had a single linerub mark along both sides. The barrel seemed to to hanging a bit on the edge of the stock also. From the end of the flutes out to the end of the stock it was floating.... Anyway when I felt the upper edge of the stock (on both sides) there was a very sharp lip (edge)on the stock.This edge did not allow the receiver to sit properly onto the receiver support rails in the stock.As I put the barreld action in and out of the stock I could feel it catch on those edges. When I put the action in and tightened the single screw I could see the action pull down into the stock, but at the same time it did not rest right + you could lift the barrel and pull the stock under the barrel and it did not always go back done where it should. Because of the gun only having one recoil lug, and the rear tang of the receiver does not rest on the stock lip... I am hesitant to float the whole barrel and I definitely want the reciever tight in the stock. Because of these two thoughts my first modification the gun was to sand the sharp edges of the synthetic stock away. What i beleive i accomplished was now the action sits in the stock on the support portion of the stock as well as the barrel. It does not get caught any longer and the rub marks do no appear on the sides of the barreled action.
Still have not shot it yet, hopefully early next week, but i really think this will steady POI. In addition I have a couple of other thoughts, easy fixes,that may provide a even more secure seat for the receiver.
Just sharing some thoughts...
Dave, do not know if this applies with your gun but while playing with mine, assemble and disasemble i did notice the barrel and the action getting somewhat caught in the stock. In fact the reciever portion had a single linerub mark along both sides. The barrel seemed to to hanging a bit on the edge of the stock also. From the end of the flutes out to the end of the stock it was floating.... Anyway when I felt the upper edge of the stock (on both sides) there was a very sharp lip (edge)on the stock.This edge did not allow the receiver to sit properly onto the receiver support rails in the stock.As I put the barreld action in and out of the stock I could feel it catch on those edges. When I put the action in and tightened the single screw I could see the action pull down into the stock, but at the same time it did not rest right + you could lift the barrel and pull the stock under the barrel and it did not always go back done where it should. Because of the gun only having one recoil lug, and the rear tang of the receiver does not rest on the stock lip... I am hesitant to float the whole barrel and I definitely want the reciever tight in the stock. Because of these two thoughts my first modification the gun was to sand the sharp edges of the synthetic stock away. What i beleive i accomplished was now the action sits in the stock on the support portion of the stock as well as the barrel. It does not get caught any longer and the rub marks do no appear on the sides of the barreled action.
Still have not shot it yet, hopefully early next week, but i really think this will steady POI. In addition I have a couple of other thoughts, easy fixes,that may provide a even more secure seat for the receiver.
Just sharing some thoughts...
#15
I checked mine and it sits nice and deep into the stock. There was one small black spot on the locking lug end of the barrel. So I cleaned that up last night and it sat flat today. But that is something I will have to watch. I might chalk the barrel and see what gets marked... thanks for the heads up.
#16

I took the rifle out again today to try some other things. I also decided to try the bullets that came with the rifle. I started on on a clean barrel shooting 110 grains of Triple Se7en 2f and some 200 grain Shockwaves. Again, all the hits are about 3-4 inches below the POA which seems strange for a rifle that has the rear sight set half way up the ramp. Next time out, I am going to raise the sight and see how much it changes. The shockwaves did pretty good, but not as good as I want them to be with open sights. I was swabbing between shots. There was no development of a crud ring at all using the red primer jackets and Winchester W209 primers.
After swabbing I decreased the powder charge to 80 grains of 2f and shot a shockwave. It his almost six inches under the POA. Again, no reason it should do that. So to check it, I aimed for the top of the cardboard and it hit about five inches low, under the POA. So I broke out the all lead sabots that came with the rifle. I swabbed between shots. They too were hitting far below the POA but did group well with only the 80 grain load. I thought I had shot five but find six holes from them so there must have been six sabot/bullets as I shot them all off and accounted for every shot after shooting.

Something is different with this rifle but we will get it figured out.
#17
cayugad
Dave, you did not say but assuming this is a 50 yard target.... Just for the heck of it I did put the laser bore sighter in mine and sighted on the old coocoo clock some 15 yards away as I center on the dot of the clock hands the red laser dot was on hitting just above the 12 on the clock. My sight is "like you said" about half way up the ramp. Usually that should indicate that I would be pretty darn close with POA/POIat 50 yards. Still have not be able to get out and shoot mine yet... Hopefully - mid week...
Dave, you did not say but assuming this is a 50 yard target.... Just for the heck of it I did put the laser bore sighter in mine and sighted on the old coocoo clock some 15 yards away as I center on the dot of the clock hands the red laser dot was on hitting just above the 12 on the clock. My sight is "like you said" about half way up the ramp. Usually that should indicate that I would be pretty darn close with POA/POIat 50 yards. Still have not be able to get out and shoot mine yet... Hopefully - mid week...
#18
yes all my shooting other then free hand is at 50 yards.. [&o] my bench is kind of stuck there.. I am going 3/4 up the ramp next time out and take some Nosler Partition 260 grain I believe they are.. What sabot would you think I should try in that barrel. I also tried to load a Bull Shop .503 and there was no way I was going to get that into the barrel easy....
#19
Giant Nontypical
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Well I am glad I moved to AR, I was out shooting my pistols friday and thought it was pretty chilly because it never got past 53 degrees. Walleyes are moving in Greers Fairy Lake so I wont be doing a whole lot of shooting for a while. Lee
#20
cayugad
Probably the short black regular Harvester... that will be my first try with the shorter bullets, them HPH-24 with the 300 grain bullets.
Shoot - just read your last sentence - the .503 did not want to go - I do not like that... OK I am going to take my breech plug out right now and try some different loads, but if the 503 would not go - then you are looking at a "crush rib" or 3p...
Give me five minutes.... and I get back...
Probably the short black regular Harvester... that will be my first try with the shorter bullets, them HPH-24 with the 300 grain bullets.
Shoot - just read your last sentence - the .503 did not want to go - I do not like that... OK I am going to take my breech plug out right now and try some different loads, but if the 503 would not go - then you are looking at a "crush rib" or 3p...
Give me five minutes.... and I get back...


