is this a stupid idea or a good one
03-05-2008 | 12:32 PM
#12
Boone & Crockett
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From: Idaho
RE: is this a stupid idea or a good one
bigtim6656
If you like the Triumph and it feels good to you, then it really could be the gun for you.
Yes, today TC barrels are showing up really tight, but if you a buying a 50 cal... then out there in the market there is a sabot that will fit the barrel properly. It is really detirmined by the size of you bore. The muzzleloading market does not have a regulatory law that governs the strict size of the bore, one of the things that helps keep ML prices down. It appears that Thompson Center has set their standards to allow anything from a .499 to a .502 as an acceptable bore diameter ( allows them to use the same tool longer - less expense) If you are one of those peole that get the tight .499 then you wll probably be into using the Harvester "crush rib" sabot either the 44/50 cal or the 45/50 cal sabot. If your gun comes with the larger .501/2 barrel you can easily use the HPH-24 or regular Harvester sabot and if you are caught in between you havealso a variety of choices with the MMP HPH-3p-Ez load, the Hornady "low drag" and even Knight has a mid sized sabot available.
So if you like the gun go for it...
If you like the Triumph and it feels good to you, then it really could be the gun for you.
Yes, today TC barrels are showing up really tight, but if you a buying a 50 cal... then out there in the market there is a sabot that will fit the barrel properly. It is really detirmined by the size of you bore. The muzzleloading market does not have a regulatory law that governs the strict size of the bore, one of the things that helps keep ML prices down. It appears that Thompson Center has set their standards to allow anything from a .499 to a .502 as an acceptable bore diameter ( allows them to use the same tool longer - less expense) If you are one of those peole that get the tight .499 then you wll probably be into using the Harvester "crush rib" sabot either the 44/50 cal or the 45/50 cal sabot. If your gun comes with the larger .501/2 barrel you can easily use the HPH-24 or regular Harvester sabot and if you are caught in between you havealso a variety of choices with the MMP HPH-3p-Ez load, the Hornady "low drag" and even Knight has a mid sized sabot available.
So if you like the gun go for it...
03-05-2008 | 01:04 PM
#13
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RE: is this a stupid idea or a good one
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
i am looking at the Tc triumph and saw where alot of people say there a bear to load a real tight fit
i also saw where you can take the breech plug out real easy by hand and even unload it that way
why could you not remove the breech plug slide the bullet and pellets down from the breech then add the breech plug slide your rod down the barrel and push it down to make sure it sits all the way down
I understand this would not mean you would not have to use the rod but a few inchs seems alot better then 28 inchs
also would this havce any legal issues since a muzzleloader is made to load form the front of the barrel
is this a good idea or just another dumb one
i am looking at the Tc triumph and saw where alot of people say there a bear to load a real tight fit
i also saw where you can take the breech plug out real easy by hand and even unload it that way
why could you not remove the breech plug slide the bullet and pellets down from the breech then add the breech plug slide your rod down the barrel and push it down to make sure it sits all the way down
I understand this would not mean you would not have to use the rod but a few inchs seems alot better then 28 inchs
also would this havce any legal issues since a muzzleloader is made to load form the front of the barrel
is this a good idea or just another dumb one
03-05-2008 | 06:35 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: MICHIGAN
RE: is this a stupid idea or a good one
Just size your bore and use Bullshop conicals. OH! Thats right you said a trumph, got that QLA and may or may not shot conicals.
Handle a Knight Rolling Block 7.
Al
Handle a Knight Rolling Block 7.
Al
03-06-2008 | 06:44 AM
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Giant Nontypical
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Texas - BUT NOW in Madison County, NY
RE: is this a stupid idea or a good one
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
i am looking at the Tc triumph and saw where alot of people say there a bear to load a real tight fit
i also saw where you can take the breech plug out real easy by hand and even unload it that way
why could you not remove the breech plug slide the bullet and pellets down from the breech then add the breech plug slide your rod down the barrel and push it down to make sure it sits all the way down
I understand this would not mean you would not have to use the rod but a few inchs seems alot better then 28 inchs
also would this havce any legal issues since a muzzleloader is made to load form the front of the barrel
is this a good idea or just another dumb one
i am looking at the Tc triumph and saw where alot of people say there a bear to load a real tight fit
i also saw where you can take the breech plug out real easy by hand and even unload it that way
why could you not remove the breech plug slide the bullet and pellets down from the breech then add the breech plug slide your rod down the barrel and push it down to make sure it sits all the way down
I understand this would not mean you would not have to use the rod but a few inchs seems alot better then 28 inchs
also would this havce any legal issues since a muzzleloader is made to load form the front of the barrel
is this a good idea or just another dumb one
Yes. Not to mention the Hall, the Sharps, and any number of other breech-loading separate-loading arms over the years.In many states, the ML hunting regs say "loads from the muzzle", so it would be illegal, just as the Sharps using loose powder and ball but loading from the breech is NOT legal.
But since the gun is made to be loaded from the muzzle, I suppose if no-one saw you take out the breech plug and load it that way, you would not be arrested. Only you would know you are a crook.....